2015/07/22, 22:06 - Dele: IMG-20150723-WA0001.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:06 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0021.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:06 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0020.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:06 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0019.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:06 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0018.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:06 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0017.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:06 - Dele: BlueTec section loading
2015/07/22, 22:08 - Pafestula: Our Nigeria kazeem suppose take their head nak those Benz,Daimler and Maybak statue, so dem go wise
2015/07/22, 22:08 - Mr Adu: 😄😄😄
2015/07/22, 22:09 - +234 803 491 1766: Lol
2015/07/22, 22:12 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0027.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:12 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0026.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:12 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0025.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:12 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0024.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:12 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0023.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:12 - Dele: I got some engines
2015/07/22, 22:12 - Dele: IMG-20150722-WA0022.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/22, 22:12 - Dele: Will post if the house wants
2015/07/22, 22:14 - Mr Adu: 👊@Dele
2015/07/22, 22:15 - Dele: 👍
2015/07/22, 22:17 - +234 703 799 0298: Na so @ festo
2015/07/22, 22:26 - Pafestula: Nice A class @ Dele
2015/07/22, 22:26 - Pafestula: Small time dem go call am Vespa also
2015/07/22, 22:27 - Oyibo: thks for d lecture
2015/07/22, 22:27 - Oyibo: But I beg answer oga Sola question
2015/07/22, 22:27 - Dele: Lol
2015/07/22, 22:27 - Dele: Something wey dey run BlueTec
2015/07/22, 22:28 - Pafestula: But na A Class
2015/07/22, 22:28 - Dele: Yh
2015/07/22, 22:28 - Pafestula: Lobatan
2015/07/22, 22:28 - Dele: Imagine the speed limit as at 1909. 10mph
2015/07/22, 22:30 - Pafestula: Hmm
2015/07/22, 22:42 - SMARTCHOICE: I need an explanation on harness wire, what does it mean, ?what's the usefulness, ? Where is it located in W202 C280 V6 12 plugs, ? Can it be replaced? What's the effect on the car if its damaged?
2015/07/22, 22:43 - SMARTCHOICE: Its located on your engine inside a semi rectangular plastic ...it connects to the nozzles
2015/07/22, 22:43 - SMARTCHOICE: And the ECU
2015/07/22, 22:43 - SMARTCHOICE: Coolant sensor etc
2015/07/22, 22:44 - SMARTCHOICE: It can be replaced if bad...for a replacement contact Tony
2015/07/22, 22:48 - SMARTCHOICE: Signs of damaged engine harness wire includes misfiring .... Peeling and bridging of wire portions... It can fry your engine ECU... And coil packs ....yes it also connects the coil packs
2015/07/23, 05:06 - Adehun: @ oga smart thank you sir, as I don get more knowledge on harness wire, I would face the naughty kazeem on my site that told me that the importance of harness wire in Mercedes is small
2015/07/23, 05:07 - Adehun: Nice lectures last nite although I slept off in class but I still got the lectures ... Good mornin sirs !!!!
2015/07/23, 05:20 - Pafestula: Morning all
2015/07/23, 05:22 - SMARTCHOICE: Benz talks
2015/07/23, 05:22 - SMARTCHOICE: Please let people receive alerts that are relevant to y they joined forum!
2015/07/23, 05:23 - Pafestula: House, pls anyone using C280 2000 model?
2015/07/23, 05:24 - Yunusa: Good morning house
2015/07/23, 05:24 - Pafestula: I want to recommend this car for a friend, and I want people to speak from experience here. Thanks
2015/07/23, 05:25 - Adehun: Oga festo!!!! Good morning, C 280 W202?
2015/07/23, 05:25 - Pafestula: The person is about giving a Benz a trial, he is Toyota addict
2015/07/23, 05:26 - Adehun: I bet he won't regret it, I left Toyota Camry 2004 for 99 C280 W202,
2015/07/23, 05:26 - Pafestula: Yes@ Mr. Shola
2015/07/23, 05:26 - SMARTCHOICE: Is this post a positive addition to why people joined forum?
2015/07/23, 05:26 - SMARTCHOICE: 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨
2015/07/23, 05:27 - Adehun: Advice him, based on stability , fuel, economy, price of the car , safety features, !!!
2015/07/23, 05:28 - Adehun: Oga smart , sir, its a lecture on W202 C280, V6 12 plugs, 0-60 in 10 seconds sir
2015/07/23, 05:29 - Pafestula: [5:26AM, 7/23/2015] Smart Choice: Is this post a positive addition to why people joined forum?
[5:26AM, 7/23/2015] Smart Choice: 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨
🔝
Which post are you talking about?
2015/07/23, 05:30 - Pafestula: @ S.A
based on stability ?,
fuel, economy ?,
price of the car?
safety features,?
Pls answer the above questions. Thanks
2015/07/23, 05:33 - Pafestula: Are you there?
2015/07/23, 05:33 - Adehun: Yes sir, I never sleep!!!!
2015/07/23, 05:33 - Pafestula: Oga Shola
2015/07/23, 05:35 - Pafestula: And the spare parts with other W202, any significant difference?
2015/07/23, 05:37 - Adehun: Stability : compared to Toyota, Mercedes C280's stabilty is granted, I do 100km/hr, in sharp bends, and with the help of my special steering lock system, I never experience skidding off the road,
2015/07/23, 05:37 - Brightcom: Mak una go sleep
2015/07/23, 05:37 - Brightcom: Goodmorning house
2015/07/23, 05:39 - Adehun: Even though my car carries a V6 12 plugs engine , the fuel economy is d best I have ever seen, I bought 10 litrs of fuel and drove a stretch of 1hr 30 minutes until my warning light came on, (Ado Ekiti to Ondo town)
2015/07/23, 05:39 - Pafestula: And what trim is the best for him? Elegance, Classic, Sport, Avantargade, BestLine etc
2015/07/23, 05:40 - Adehun: @ cash money, I dey come, make I finish dis assigment,
2015/07/23, 05:40 - Brightcom: Which b b dt@sola
2015/07/23, 05:40 - Pafestula: To and fro 10 liters Ado to Ondo?
2015/07/23, 05:40 - Adehun: I would strongly suggest Elegance, its stylish and carries sportish features
2015/07/23, 05:41 - Pafestula: ✔✔✔ elegance my favourite
2015/07/23, 05:41 - Adehun: From Ado Ekit to Ondo town,
2015/07/23, 05:41 - Pafestula: Did u use A/c
2015/07/23, 05:42 - Pafestula: No
2015/07/23, 05:42 - Adehun: I would be goin to ilorin tomorrow , I want to see how much fuel, I am goin to consume, I just serviced the car, the nozzles, I changed the plugs and changed the tyres from 205/65 15, to 215 65 15
2015/07/23, 05:43 - Adehun: I want to see the effect on the fuel economy ,
2015/07/23, 05:43 - Pafestula: Pls do, let us know the distance covered for far, so we can rate your MPG
2015/07/23, 05:44 - Pafestula: Reset your trip counter
2015/07/23, 05:44 - Adehun: Not with AC,dia is a small diffrence even if I use AC ,
2015/07/23, 05:44 - Pafestula: To 0.00
2015/07/23, 05:44 - Adehun: How do I reset the trip counter,
2015/07/23, 05:44 - Adehun: I would definatly do dat before I leave ado Ekiti tomoro
2015/07/23, 05:45 - Pafestula: Take it to smart choice
2015/07/23, 05:45 - Zadoc: Gud morn'n my good people! Very happy 2 b back!!
2015/07/23, 05:46 - Adehun: Welcome back uncle Zadoc, !!!!
2015/07/23, 05:46 - Pafestula: Welcome, you missed class, make sure u read your books posted here while u were away
2015/07/23, 05:46 - Pafestula: Exam is coming up soon on this forum
2015/07/23, 05:47 - Adehun: Oga smart choice, to get that bros na issue o, I would tell "dagrin" to look out for him, his car is always parked on the road kerbs in town !!!
2015/07/23, 05:47 - Brightcom: Lolz @exams
2015/07/23, 05:48 - Adehun: @ cash money , u would write ur own exam on GL 550
2015/07/23, 05:48 - Pafestula: The long button like pin from your speedometer is what to use Sir
2015/07/23, 05:48 - Brightcom: Lolz
2015/07/23, 05:49 - Pafestula: <======<< 🏃
2015/07/23, 05:49 - Pafestula: Back later for continuation of yesterday facts about Mercedes Benz
2015/07/23, 05:50 - Brightcom: Festo u cant start dis morning by running away
2015/07/23, 05:51 - Brightcom: Finish him! (Mortal Kombat)
2015/07/23, 05:51 - Pafestula: I gave out 11 yesterday, today am gonna add 24 to the previous 11.. Making 35
2015/07/23, 05:53 - Pafestula: I want all other students to wake up and join the class, after all it is not secret tutorial class, so why 6:53am
2015/07/23, 05:53 - Brightcom: Lol
2015/07/23, 05:54 - Pafestula: *5:53 am Nigeria time
2015/07/23, 05:54 - Brightcom: 5.54am lecture time
2015/07/23, 05:54 - Adehun: @ cash money I have to take ur car to Exhibit of PIMP MY RIDE to tune ur car and install mortal kombat on the dash board
2015/07/23, 05:54 - Pafestula: <======<< 🏃
2015/07/23, 05:54 - Adehun: @ oga festo make it 8 PM Nigeria time o
2015/07/23, 05:55 - Pafestula: I will try sir
2015/07/23, 05:56 - Brightcom: Lolz, dt will b d best but i go dey jam ppl cos i go leave driving dey play am
2015/07/23, 05:57 - Zadoc: Tnx Oga Shola. Hw's ur sweet bride (C280) treating u?
2015/07/23, 05:59 - Zadoc: Think na vírus don crash my phone 3days ago n my whatzapp went brakata!
2015/07/23, 06:00 - Zadoc: Anywayz am happy 2 b home!
2015/07/23, 06:00 - Adehun: Boss, that car is excellent, with my experience with C280, I don't think I can buy a four plugs car again ,
2015/07/23, 06:00 - Zadoc: Let me go back 2 monday's chat n c wat i've missed so far!
2015/07/23, 06:00 - Adehun: @ cash money. Hmnn, anyway GL550 get safety feature
2015/07/23, 06:01 - Adehun: Ehn. Ehn, what's the use of turbo chargers on cars ? I only see it on a D8 buldozer
2015/07/23, 06:20 - SMARTCHOICE: Just Benz talks Sirs
2015/07/23, 06:21 - SMARTCHOICE: Abiola note!
2015/07/23, 06:23 - +234 803 461 4675: Good morning nice people of Benz. Please can somebody enlighten me on the meaning of that "VDO" at the top of odometer in Benz instrument cluster. Google did not help me at all.
2015/07/23, 06:46 - +234 803 391 8271: VDO (Vereinigte DEUTA (Deutsche Tachometerwerke GmbH) OTA (OTA Apparate GmbH)), is a manufacturer of information and cockpit systems, navigation, telematics, communication and audio systems, and control and fuel systems
2015/07/23, 06:47 - +234 803 391 8271: Brand name for guages made by the company
2015/07/23, 06:49 - SMARTCHOICE: www.vdo.com
2015/07/23, 07:16 - Jonaboy: Morning house, this is wishing us all a successful day.
2015/07/23, 08:56 - +234 803 461 4675: What does the v.d.o count in the car?
2015/07/23, 08:56 - +234 803 461 4675: @ smartchoice
2015/07/23, 08:56 - +234 803 461 4675: @ Nedu
2015/07/23, 08:57 - +234 803 461 4675: I got all these info u have provided. But not what that counter counts in the instrument cluster
2015/07/23, 08:57 - +234 803 391 8271: Everything on the cluster
2015/07/23, 08:57 - +234 803 391 8271: Speed
2015/07/23, 08:58 - +234 803 391 8271: Fuel
2015/07/23, 08:58 - +234 803 391 8271: Rev
2015/07/23, 08:58 - +234 803 391 8271: Etc
2015/07/23, 08:58 - +234 803 461 4675: Henhen?
2015/07/23, 08:58 - SMARTCHOICE: Hen
2015/07/23, 08:59 - +234 803 461 4675: So I can know my miles/gallon from it?
2015/07/23, 09:03 - +234 803 391 8271: Haba,am i missing something?
2015/07/23, 09:03 - +234 803 391 8271: Cluster shows readings
2015/07/23, 09:03 - +234 803 391 8271: Various readings
2015/07/23, 09:03 - +234 803 391 8271: VDO is a brand of cluster
2015/07/23, 09:05 - +234 803 461 4675: There is something @ d to of odometer that reads another thing. Vdo is written on it
2015/07/23, 09:06 - +234 803 461 4675: In Mercedes Benz C class, w202
2015/07/23, 09:14 - +234 803 461 4675: Nedu, I am waiting nah
2015/07/23, 09:14 - +234 803 461 4675: Pls shed more light
2015/07/23, 09:33 - +234 803 391 8271: Na fire i go shed😃
2015/07/23, 09:34 - +234 803 391 8271: Paste pix of what you are referring to
2015/07/23, 10:03 - Id410: good morning house
2015/07/23, 10:03 - Id410: https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/upcoming-mercedes-c-class-coupe-trade-luxury-sport-150020329.html
2015/07/23, 10:09 - Id410: http://www.digitaltrends.com/car-reviews/2016-mercedes-amg-gle-63-s-coupe-first-drive/
2015/07/23, 10:16 - You added Trafford
2015/07/23, 10:16 - Trafford: Good to be here... Thanks @Moderator
2015/07/23, 10:17 - SMARTCHOICE: Please introduce yourself
2015/07/23, 10:20 - Trafford: I'm Jonathan by name, from Delta state base in PH but work in Bayelsa state. An Engineer by profession and just got my first car recently, a 2004 Merecedes C200
2015/07/23, 10:21 - Sope: Good morning my brothers
2015/07/23, 10:21 - Viazi: @ GEJ , Engine pixs
2015/07/23, 10:22 - Viazi: Send it
2015/07/23, 10:23 - Trafford: IMG-20150723-WA0004.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:24 - Dele: Shoppy, this your sine wave pattern ehn. We go soon give you querry
2015/07/23, 10:26 - Trafford: I hope I made a good choice? I'm a newbie when it comes to. Vehicle but av always dreamt of owning a Mercedes hence my decision to get this
2015/07/23, 10:27 - Sope: Thats not my engine @ oga dele
2015/07/23, 10:31 - Aikerism: Welcome @ Jonathan
2015/07/23, 10:31 - Trafford: Thanks @ Aikerism
2015/07/23, 10:31 - Sope: Aikerism I salute you
2015/07/23, 10:32 - Aikerism: Pls continue with the introduction
2015/07/23, 10:32 - Aikerism: We have seen the engine pic
2015/07/23, 10:32 - Aikerism: Show us the interior and exterior pics too
2015/07/23, 10:32 - Aikerism: Also name the ride
2015/07/23, 10:32 - Aikerism: Model, year , trim
2015/07/23, 10:33 - +234 803 461 4675: I want to see the tires pls
2015/07/23, 10:34 - +234 803 461 4675: Who drives W202 here?
2015/07/23, 10:35 - Trafford: Year 2004,Model C200
2015/07/23, 10:36 - Sope: Pls a friend of mine needs a clean W203 toks or used of not more than 3months. 2004 or 05 model
2015/07/23, 10:36 - Camaro: I have one @shoppy
2015/07/23, 10:36 - Trafford: IMG-20150723-WA0005.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Trafford: IMG-20150723-WA0006.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Trafford: IMG-20150723-WA0007.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Camaro: IMG-20150723-WA0015.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Camaro: IMG-20150723-WA0011.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Camaro: IMG-20150723-WA0010.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Camaro: IMG-20150723-WA0009.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Camaro: IMG-20150723-WA0008.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Trafford: IMG-20150723-WA0012.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Trafford: IMG-20150723-WA0014.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Trafford: IMG-20150723-WA0013.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:37 - Camaro: Good morning benzites
2015/07/23, 10:38 - +234 803 391 8271: Welcome Jonathan
2015/07/23, 10:38 - +234 803 391 8271: Ur cream interior kills me
2015/07/23, 10:38 - Camaro: Welcome Jonathan
2015/07/23, 10:38 - Sope: Good morning @ Kells
2015/07/23, 10:39 - Camaro: Shoot, it's been a while
2015/07/23, 10:39 - Trafford: thanks @Nedu
2015/07/23, 10:39 - Sope: You warmly welcomed @ Jonathan
2015/07/23, 10:40 - Aikerism: IMG-20150723-WA0016.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 10:40 - Trafford: Still trying to understand the car though but it's a beauty to behold
2015/07/23, 10:41 - Sope: Kells send me private message make we yarn
2015/07/23, 10:41 - Aikerism: Kaa ni wo
2015/07/23, 10:41 - Aikerism: Someone was asking about VDO and how to reset trip meter
2015/07/23, 10:41 - Aikerism: I drive a W202 C280 2001 model
2015/07/23, 10:41 - Aikerism: And this is my Cluster
2015/07/23, 10:41 - Aikerism: Uncle Shoppy I greet U
2015/07/23, 10:41 - Aikerism: This morning I reset my service meter to show 15,000km
2015/07/23, 10:41 - Aikerism: Jonathan we are waiting...
2015/07/23, 10:41 - Aikerism: As shown
2015/07/23, 10:42 - Camaro: Copy that @ shoot
2015/07/23, 10:42 - Camaro: Shoppy
2015/07/23, 10:43 - Camaro: Aikerism, how did you do that?
2015/07/23, 10:48 - Aikerism: Let me snap the buttons proper and write out the procedure
2015/07/23, 10:49 - Danadam: I5000km OCI
2015/07/23, 10:50 - Danadam: Mine is 20900 KM OCI, though i usually change the oil b4 it gets to 20000km
2015/07/23, 10:51 - Viazi: Am learning😊
2015/07/23, 10:52 - Trafford: Thanks @ Shoppyanno
2015/07/23, 10:52 - Pafestula: @Aikerism, what is the meaning of the 🔧showing on your cluster
2015/07/23, 10:52 - Camaro: Maintenance @festo
2015/07/23, 10:53 - Viazi: @ GEJ, your ride may be O2 of W203
2015/07/23, 10:53 - Viazi: Rugged engine
2015/07/23, 10:53 - Pafestula: What Maintenance @ Kells, speak further
2015/07/23, 10:54 - Danadam: Oil change@ festo
2015/07/23, 10:55 - Camaro: Maintenance mileage reader. It counts the miles cover for oil servicing
2015/07/23, 10:55 - Pafestula: Now u are talking
2015/07/23, 10:55 - Camaro: Ok boss
2015/07/23, 10:56 - Pafestula: So if it shows means change the oil?
2015/07/23, 10:56 - Pafestula: Or the digit showing along side
2015/07/23, 10:56 - Trafford: What's the question? Aikerism ... so it's 02, why was I told it's 04 then, novice is always a novice@hybridsolicitor
2015/07/23, 10:57 - Viazi: Post your VIN here
2015/07/23, 10:58 - Danadam: @festo, you reset after an oil change. Drive for 15000 or one yr b4 the next oil change, then reset again
2015/07/23, 10:59 - Trafford: Where can I see d VIN, am a novice wen it comes to vehicle, my own na jst to drive o 😄
2015/07/23, 10:59 - Viazi: 😀
2015/07/23, 10:59 - Danadam: By the driver side of your windscreen
2015/07/23, 11:00 - Danadam: It's a 17 alpha numeric character
2015/07/23, 11:00 - Dele: No make Kazeem build office on top your head @Jonathan
2015/07/23, 11:00 - Danadam: 17 digits
2015/07/23, 11:02 - Viazi: Him no sabi Kazeem na
2015/07/23, 11:03 - Dele: Torr
2015/07/23, 11:05 - Trafford: Okay make I find am... @Dele which one b Kazeem again na... it's I will start a course here mayb start wit Mercedes 101 😄
2015/07/23, 11:08 - Pafestula: Welcome Mr. Jona
2015/07/23, 11:09 - Pafestula: Keep following this forum, make it as your number online priority,
2015/07/23, 11:11 - Sope: Pls who can tell me about the W203 C320
2015/07/23, 11:11 - Sope: The fuel economy
2015/07/23, 11:11 - Sope: Maintenance
2015/07/23, 11:11 - Pafestula: Bigmeat over to you
2015/07/23, 11:12 - Sope: What are the major problems with the C320
2015/07/23, 11:12 - Pafestula: No problem than super power
2015/07/23, 11:17 - Sope: Pls my brothers help o. I need info on W203 C320
2015/07/23, 11:17 - Sope: Pafestula I appreciate you
2015/07/23, 11:17 - Pafestula: I think I need to ignore 4matic and Kompressor, then focus on W203 C280 or C320
2015/07/23, 11:19 - Viazi: @ Festo, same here
2015/07/23, 11:20 - Viazi: I love power
2015/07/23, 11:22 - Pafestula: I love power and economy
2015/07/23, 11:27 - Oyibo: @jonathan,in simple language Vin is d same as chasis no, 17 digits alphanumeric in nature
2015/07/23, 11:29 - Aikerism: When I got the car it was showing 🔧1,500
2015/07/23, 11:29 - Aikerism: I serviced in Lagos but didn't know how to reset it
2015/07/23, 11:30 - Aikerism: So yesterday it had started showing
2015/07/23, 11:30 - Aikerism: 🔧 - 100
2015/07/23, 11:30 - Aikerism: And blinking and making one sound at engine start up
2015/07/23, 11:30 - Aikerism: So I read the manual and got the directions on how to reset
2015/07/23, 11:31 - Aikerism: IMG-20150723-WA0017.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 11:34 - Aikerism: So its quite simple... Insert the smart key... Turn it to position 2, press the "0" twice to display the current service info ( do dis under 4 seconds) then under another 10 seconds turn the key back to to position 0 then press and hold that button "0"... While still pressing down on it turn the key back to position 2 and wait for a beep then its reset to 15,000km
2015/07/23, 11:34 - Aikerism: This just helps U monitor when next u r due for servicing within one year...
2015/07/23, 11:35 - Aikerism: But so many other factors may bring the time closer... So its not a must u drive for a whole year before the next service
2015/07/23, 11:38 - Aikerism: Driving at extreme speeds, and cold starts combined with short distance driving in which the engine does not reach normal operating temperature, reduce the interval between services...
2015/07/23, 11:38 - Aikerism: Jonathan have u seen the vin?
2015/07/23, 11:39 - Aikerism: Also check the area near the hook of the 2 front doors...
2015/07/23, 11:39 - Aikerism: This is mine...
2015/07/23, 11:41 - Aikerism: IMG-20150723-WA0018.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 11:45 - Dele: @Jonathan, Kazeem is that thing which has a shop around the corner, dressed in an engine oil soiled robe, that probably has no SSCE attempt, but suddenly assumes mastery of our darling Benzes
2015/07/23, 11:50 - Aikerism: So BEWARE of KAZEEM's... Especially since you are new to benz... Don't let them near your baby...
2015/07/23, 11:52 - Aikerism: Since you are based in PH... Am sure there are good places U can care for ur ride...
2015/07/23, 11:55 - Aikerism: @ Abiola... I see that V.D.O and its Triangle when I do a lil rough driving... Especially when the rear tires spin without griping the ground... It flashes the amber traingle on the dash...
2015/07/23, 11:56 - Aikerism: Mayb a warning to drive better...
2015/07/23, 12:05 - Danadam: That should be the ESP light
2015/07/23, 12:05 - Danadam: The triangular light
2015/07/23, 12:05 - Pafestula: House pls run this vin, WDB1680331J190209
2015/07/23, 12:05 - Danadam: Electronic stability program
2015/07/23, 12:06 - Pafestula: Comprehensive report pls about the above VIN. Thanks
2015/07/23, 12:07 - Aikerism: What car is it?
2015/07/23, 12:10 - Pafestula: This is Mercedes-Benz A-CLASS VIN decoder. Every Mercedes-Benz
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2015/07/23, 12:11 - Pafestula: Someone sent it to me from Cotonou that he saw a clean car there right now
2015/07/23, 12:12 - Pafestula: The little check I did gave me the above grammar
2015/07/23, 12:13 - Viazi: @ Festo, can U beg the person to give me price estimate of 2005 C320? I need an idea cos I set out soon
2015/07/23, 12:14 - Yunusa: 2
2015/07/23, 12:15 - Yunusa: @festo, please can u confirm the likely price of 2006 C230
2015/07/23, 12:16 - Dele: In recent times, the site which gives the most comprehensive information has not been functional
2015/07/23, 12:16 - Dele: The Russian site car kits
2015/07/23, 12:16 - Dele: Kiev or something
2015/07/23, 12:26 - Dele: So except someone has an alternative site
2015/07/23, 12:27 - Sope: Instant Classic Drag Battle: Lamborghini Versus CLS63 AMG - MBWorld - I am browsing [Instant Classic Drag Battle: Lamborghini Versus CLS63 AMG - MBWorld]. Have a look at it! http://mbworld.org/articles/lamborghini-versus-cls-63-amg-drag-battle/?newsletter
2015/07/23, 12:31 - Aikerism: The other info on d A Class are missing
2015/07/23, 12:31 - Aikerism: All I got was its a 2001 model
2015/07/23, 12:36 - Viazi: IMG-20150723-WA0019.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 12:38 - Pafestula: VIN: WDB1680331J190209
WMI / VDS / VIS: WDB / 168033 / 1J190209
Manufacturer: Mercedes-Benz DCAG DAIMLER AG
Brand: Mercedes-Benz
Model: A-CLASS
Engine: N/A
Region/Plant: N/A
Check: 3
Year: 2001
Sequential number: 90209
2015/07/23, 12:38 - Pafestula: Same stupid report I got
2015/07/23, 12:39 - Pafestula: I need a comprehensive report, I don't want him to make mistake
2015/07/23, 12:44 - Sope: You need carfax to get a comprehensive report
2015/07/23, 12:45 - Sope: What to known if you wana get a C-classW204
2015/07/23, 12:47 - Sope: IMG-20150723-WA0024.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 12:47 - Sope: IMG-20150723-WA0023.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 12:47 - Sope: IMG-20150723-WA0020.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 12:47 - Sope: IMG-20150723-WA0022.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 12:47 - Sope: IMG-20150723-WA0021.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 12:50 - Sope: IMG-20150723-WA0025.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 12:51 - Sope: IMG-20150723-WA0026.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 12:52 - Sope: IMG-20150723-WA0027.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 12:52 - Sope: IMG-20150723-WA0028.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 13:40 - +234 803 391 8271: Please does anyone here use castrol synthetic oil for his benz?
2015/07/23, 13:51 - Trafford: Please what is d price to fill gas in car
2015/07/23, 13:53 - Dele: Which gas@Jonathan?
2015/07/23, 13:54 - Trafford: For d 04 C200
2015/07/23, 13:54 - Trafford: The VIN
2015/07/23, 13:55 - Trafford: IMG-20150723-WA0029.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/23, 14:02 - Camaro: @aikerism, that triangle light shows when the traction and stability control systems are functioning. No necessarily when you are in your James Bond mode. Slippery road conditions can trigger that to show
2015/07/23, 14:25 - Danadam: @Jonathan, the VIN is not visible
2015/07/23, 14:25 - Danadam: Kindly write down the digits and post here
2015/07/23, 14:30 - Aikerism: Jonathan write it out pls
2015/07/23, 14:40 - Viazi: It was intentionally scratched off there. His best bet is the dash board vin
2015/07/23, 14:43 - Dele: There may be a solution
2015/07/23, 14:43 - Aikerism: How?
2015/07/23, 14:43 - Dele: In my W202, I observed the VIN is engraved under the car rug
2015/07/23, 14:44 - Dele: Under the passenger seat in front
2015/07/23, 14:45 - You added Shope Nnpc
2015/07/23, 14:46 - Danadam: It's also written in the engine compartment.
2015/07/23, 14:46 - Danadam: That steel-like plate, its engraved on it. Check patiently, you will see it
2015/07/23, 14:47 - Dele: Yh
2015/07/23, 14:47 - Dele: It requires patience to see
2015/07/23, 14:47 - SMARTCHOICE: The chassis number is same as Vin
2015/07/23, 14:47 - Dele: True
2015/07/23, 14:48 - SMARTCHOICE: So check your papers
2015/07/23, 14:49 - Dele: What if it's written wrong in the papers?
2015/07/23, 14:49 - Oyibo: @jonathan,open ur bonet, d Vin nuba is sometimes written on d end of d bonet under d windscreen
2015/07/23, 14:49 - SMARTCHOICE: Then the owner should be arrested ASAP
2015/07/23, 14:50 - Oyibo: Or check ur custom paper
2015/07/23, 14:50 - Oyibo: U will get it there
2015/07/23, 14:51 - Oyibo: @smart, ture talk
2015/07/23, 14:55 - Oyibo: Jona, open d front passenger door, there is a sticker wit d Vin nuba
2015/07/23, 15:19 - Jessy Kolo: Why don't you check ur car registration papers?
2015/07/23, 18:08 - Pafestula: @ Jonathan, I love the interior of your car, you got my taste
2015/07/23, 18:08 - +234 803 491 1766: Oga festo i greet u o
2015/07/23, 18:11 - Pafestula: Smart and Mike help me with VIN I posted earlier on
2015/07/23, 18:11 - SMARTCHOICE: Vespa?
2015/07/23, 18:12 - Pafestula: 🔨🔨🔨
Benz talk only or I will remove u
2015/07/23, 18:13 - Pafestula: Where did u see Vespa ? Or today is talk free day?
2015/07/23, 18:13 - SMARTCHOICE: Yes that's the Benz ye have
2015/07/23, 18:13 - SMARTCHOICE: Anyways what details are you seeking
2015/07/23, 18:13 - Pafestula: A Class W168
2015/07/23, 18:15 - Pafestula: A friend is buying cars from Cotonou, and wanna buy the car for his wife
2015/07/23, 18:15 - SMARTCHOICE: Contact inze
2015/07/23, 18:16 - Pafestula: He posted the VIN to me, and I couldn't run the check, so I posted it here
2015/07/23, 18:16 - Pafestula: Ok, let me enter NL
2015/07/23, 18:16 - SMARTCHOICE: 👍
2015/07/23, 18:16 - Pafestula: Hope u are coming to class tonight?
2015/07/23, 18:17 - SMARTCHOICE: 🔨🔨
2015/07/23, 18:17 - Pafestula: Lecture on Benz forum too na hammer?
2015/07/23, 18:17 - Pafestula: Hahah
2015/07/23, 18:18 - +234 803 391 8271: Hahah can fetch you hammer sef
2015/07/23, 18:19 - Pafestula: Ok o
2015/07/23, 19:03 - Pafestula: Mr. Jonathan
2015/07/23, 19:04 - Pafestula: Are you on Nairaland?
2015/07/23, 19:05 - Viazi: @ GEJ, U still cannot get Vin?
2015/07/23, 19:06 - Pafestula: Where is he now
2015/07/23, 19:29 - Camaro: Festo don't we have you class today or is it not time yet?
2015/07/23, 19:31 - +234 803 491 1766: Festo we are all seated o
2015/07/23, 19:32 - +234 803 461 4675: VIN: JTK202020A1923932
2015/07/23, 19:32 - Camaro: Abi what's up
2015/07/23, 19:38 - +234 803 461 4675: I am fine sir.
2015/07/23, 19:52 - Dele: CARInfo | АвтоСправочник - http://carinfo.kiev.ua/
2015/07/23, 19:52 - Dele: Back in the day, this site used to give the most comprehensive VIN report
2015/07/23, 19:52 - Dele: Don't know about now
2015/07/23, 19:53 - Dele: Anyone with VIN queries can check it out
2015/07/23, 20:00 - Pafestula: Evening class
2015/07/23, 20:01 - Pafestula: The agreement was 8pm
2015/07/23, 20:01 - Pafestula: So am here
2015/07/23, 20:01 - Viazi: 😩
2015/07/23, 20:02 - Pafestula: Once again good evening Mercedes Benz forum class
2015/07/23, 20:02 - Camaro: Good evening sir
2015/07/23, 20:03 - Dele: 👏👏👏👏👏
2015/07/23, 20:04 - Dele: Class!!! Stand and greet.!
2015/07/23, 20:04 - Brightcom: Lolz
2015/07/23, 20:05 - Pafestula: Tonight I will be lecturing on facts about Benz, the continuation of where we stopped last night
2015/07/23, 20:05 - Dele: <============🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃
2015/07/23, 20:05 - Camaro: Number 11
2015/07/23, 20:05 - Pafestula: Good✔
2015/07/23, 20:05 - Pafestula: Now let's roll
2015/07/23, 20:07 - Pafestula: 12. Mercedes-Benz employs one inspector for every 11 workers, and pays them to criticize their heads off. By the time a Mercedes-Benz gets the final stamp of approval, it has undergone thousands of separate inspections.
2015/07/23, 20:08 - Pafestula: What an incredible way to perfection..
2015/07/23, 20:09 - Pafestula: 13. Every Mercedes-Benz body is welded in 10,000 places. No bolts to work loose as the miles add up; this is one car that wont age to the sad tune of rattles, squeaks and groans.
2015/07/23, 20:09 - Pafestula: Helloooo....
2015/07/23, 20:09 - Camaro: Hiiiiiii
2015/07/23, 20:10 - Pafestula: Ok
2015/07/23, 20:11 - Pafestula: 14. Every Mercedes-Benz sits on a fully independent swing axle suspension system, first used on the company's racing machines. This suspension allows firm and stable roadholding regardless of speed and dips without jarring or pitching. That's the secret behind balancing.
2015/07/23, 20:13 - Pafestula: *Those who underrates W168, pls take note of the above fact
2015/07/23, 20:14 - Pafestula: 15. All Mercedes-Benz engines use overhead camshafts in place of ordinary valve actuation. This allows extremely high engine speeds in total smoothness, and safety, and quiet. And it permits these engines, only half the size of most V8's, to cruise at over 90 mph all day if required.
2015/07/23, 20:14 - Pafestula: Helloooo...
2015/07/23, 20:17 - +234 803 461 4675: Hmm
2015/07/23, 20:17 - Pafestula: 16. Million-dollar machines electronically balance every Mercedes-Benz crankshaft, adding to the vibration-free high-speed cruising comfort for which these cars are famed. Engine tolerances are measured in 10,000ths of an inch.
2015/07/23, 20:17 - +234 803 461 4675: Hmm
2015/07/23, 20:19 - Pafestula: Every engine is test-run before being mounted in the car. Many are run for over an hour on special test rigs including A Class, and checked with a battery of gauges for any sign of undue noise or friction. Engine oil during this test is replenished more than 60
times - flushing away every speck of dirt and debris.
2015/07/23, 20:19 - Pafestula: That's number what?
2015/07/23, 20:20 - Jg: 17 sire
2015/07/23, 20:21 - Pafestula: Good..
2015/07/23, 20:22 - Pafestula: 18. Every Mercedes-Benz model including A Class carries disc brakes at all four wheels as standard equipment. Front and rear brake systems on all cars are separately activated; if one system somehow failed, the second would take over to stop you.
2015/07/23, 20:23 - Pafestula: 19. Vital suspension steering and brake parts are tightened during assembly by hand with a unique torque wrench-designed forthe job by Mercedes-Benz engineers. When the exact pre-determined pressure is reached, this ingenius device squirts a blot of yellow paint on to the part. A follow-up inspector then
simply counts the blots to check that the job has been perfectly
done.
2015/07/23, 20:24 - Pafestula: 20. Each of the four coil springs used in a Mercedes-Benz suspension is selected to form a matched set, by way of four special tests. This ensures a balanced ride, down to the finest degree.
2015/07/23, 20:27 - Pafestula: 21. The steering system of your Mercedes-Benz carries its own-tiny built-in shock absorber, to cushion road shocks and damp them out before they can affect your hands on the steering wheel.
2015/07/23, 20:27 - Adehun: Ayee !!!, I came late to class
2015/07/23, 20:28 - Pafestula: 22. After welding, many vital seams in the body of every Mercedes-Benz are ground down by hand, then packed with pewter, then ground down again and polished to invisibility. No jagged, shabby, depressing signs of hasty workmanship.
2015/07/23, 20:30 - Pafestula: 23. Prior to painting, every Mercedes Benz body is drowned in a 52-ton primer bath. This rich anti-corrosion coating seeps into every nook and cranny.
🔝 a round of applause for Benz 👏
2015/07/23, 20:31 - Pafestula: 24. When the primer has been baked on, 25 pounds of
permanent plasticized undercoating are sprayed on to the underside and wheel wells of every Mercedes-Benz. Another safeguard against rust. Wow...👍
2015/07/23, 20:32 - Pafestula: 25. The body is given four coats of paint-hand polished between coats, the final paint coat applied by hand -for a smooth 'lustrous finish which is especially salt-resistant.
2015/07/23, 20:33 - Adehun: 🙏
2015/07/23, 20:33 - Adehun: 👊@ oga festo
2015/07/23, 20:34 - Sope: Pls I need info on the W203 C320. Fuel economy, cost of maintenance, parts, problems
2015/07/23, 20:34 - Pafestula: 26. Tyres on all Mercedes-Benz cars are super premium grade and far exceed the minimum requirements set by new U.S. safety laws. They are proved capable of carrying a full passenger and luggage load, at normal specified air pressures, in continuous high-speed cruising. Note too that all Mercedes-Benz wheels are statically and dynamically balanced at the
factory - even the spare.
2015/07/23, 20:35 - SMARTCHOICE: Which Benz model are you referring to @ festo? Cos some models are rust boxes
2015/07/23, 20:36 - Adehun: Shopyanno, lecture on !!!!,
2015/07/23, 20:36 - Adehun: Pls listen first
2015/07/23, 20:37 - SMARTCHOICE: Shoppy your friend risks removal if he doesn't introduce himself ASAP
2015/07/23, 20:38 - Pafestula: @ Smart Those rust models could be flooded cars, carelessness during shipping, and also some of those rust cars are from Cotonou, they were parked close the sea side
2015/07/23, 20:38 - SMARTCHOICE: Nope
2015/07/23, 20:38 - Pafestula: E.g sir
2015/07/23, 20:39 - SMARTCHOICE: W210 is a classic example of a rust endowed model
2015/07/23, 20:40 - Pafestula: Not in all cases
2015/07/23, 20:41 - SMARTCHOICE: A lot of them
2015/07/23, 20:41 - Pafestula: Hardly u see Lagos cleared benz with such, unless flooded cars
2015/07/23, 20:41 - Camaro: W210 is actually know know for that
2015/07/23, 20:41 - Pafestula: The common aspect of rust cars I witnessed... Those cars were bought from Cotonou
2015/07/23, 20:41 - +234 803 491 1766: Hmmm
2015/07/23, 20:42 - SMARTCHOICE: After the Benz golden era of W124 when Benz spends 1million dollars per day on r&d ....production quality dropped
2015/07/23, 20:44 - SMARTCHOICE: The coming of other brands geared them up again... As their dominant market share especially in north America was penetrated by rivals
2015/07/23, 20:45 - SMARTCHOICE: These Mercedes responded to with a radical change that produced the W210 models
2015/07/23, 20:45 - Pafestula: But the good news is.... Benz recorded lesser rust models
2015/07/23, 20:46 - SMARTCHOICE: Well ....depending on model
2015/07/23, 20:46 - SMARTCHOICE: Let the class go on o
2015/07/23, 20:47 - Camaro: But the good news is.... Benz recorded lesser rust models
That should be cars produced after 2003
2015/07/23, 20:47 - SMARTCHOICE: 👍
2015/07/23, 20:47 - SMARTCHOICE: @Engr kels
2015/07/23, 20:48 - Camaro: Thanks. Happy to be his first class material and course rep
2015/07/23, 20:49 - Pafestula: I know many rust golf 3 too, etc, but let's not derail
2015/07/23, 20:50 - Pafestula: 27. A four speed, fUlly-synchronized manual or automatic transmission comes as standard equipment on all Mercedes-Benz models, except 300 and 600 series which are equipped with automatic transmission only.
2015/07/23, 20:50 - Camaro: Wow, learning this for the first time
2015/07/23, 20:51 - Pafestula: ✔
2015/07/23, 20:51 - Pafestula: 28. All chromium trim on Mercedes Benz cars is given two coats of copper and another of nickel before plating.
2015/07/23, 20:52 - Camaro: That should be applicable to applicable to w124
2015/07/23, 20:53 - Pafestula: 29. The interior of even the smallest Mercedes-Benz offers, in many respects, more passenger space than the largest sedans.
2015/07/23, 20:53 - Camaro: 300e to be precluded
2015/07/23, 20:54 - Adehun: I love this point no 29,,, so A class has such a good space ,,,
2015/07/23, 20:54 - Pafestula: 30. The seats in the Mercedes-Benz cars were designed and shaped in consultation .with leading orthopedic physicians. These contoured, firmly upholstered seats envelop you-supporting vital kidney, back and knee-joint areas.
2015/07/23, 20:54 - Adehun: I am gonna pen dat down
2015/07/23, 20:55 - Pafestula: I love this point no 29,,, so A class has such a good space ,,, watch the videos I shared on this forum about A class
2015/07/23, 20:56 - Pafestula: Well.. So far so good, class let's call it a day here.. So we can have time to interact on the above facts.
2015/07/23, 20:57 - +234 803 491 1766: Festo u r d bestest
2015/07/23, 20:57 - Pafestula: Oh thank u sir
2015/07/23, 20:57 - Camaro: 😀
2015/07/23, 20:57 - Camaro: 📝
2015/07/23, 20:58 - Pafestula: I still have many things to tell you about Mercedes Benz, why benz are compare to non
2015/07/23, 20:59 - Camaro: Tomorrow's lecture I guess
2015/07/23, 21:00 - Pafestula: Yes, you can't get it on Google, so no expo
2015/07/23, 21:01 - Pafestula: 😜
2015/07/23, 21:04 - +234 803 491 1766: On behalf of members of dis class i must say thank u 2 prof festo for enlighten us and mkin us hv more confidence in our star brand. May God continue to endow u wit d fountain of wisdom jst like Solomon
2015/07/23, 21:05 - Oyibo: Prof festo 👍
2015/07/23, 21:06 - Pafestula: Wanna sign out..
2015/07/23, 21:07 - Pafestula: Wow.. Thank you all for listening to me
2015/07/23, 21:08 - Pafestula: * for listened
2015/07/23, 21:11 - Pafestula: I will just add 3 more facts about Benz, then we move to another topic
2015/07/23, 21:12 - Brightcom: U signed out n signed in?😀
2015/07/23, 21:12 - Pafestula: Probably Brake system, how it was manufactured, how it works, causes for brake failure, preventive measures etc.. All about Mercedes Benz Brakes
2015/07/23, 21:14 - Pafestula: Also I would like to explore the secret behind Mercedes Benz Steering, secret behind Mercedes Benz unbeatable power steering etc
2015/07/23, 21:15 - Pafestula: IMG-20150723-WA0033.jpg (file attached)
Next lecture
2015/07/23, 21:19 - Pafestula: IMG-20150723-WA0034.jpg (file attached)
The brake lecture would also include hand brake etc
2015/07/23, 21:20 - Pafestula: <========<< 🚶🚶🚶
Good night class...
2015/07/23, 21:44 - Pafestula: Or anyone can choose any area you want me to lecture about Mercedes Benz.
1.Aerodynamic
2. Air condition
3. Air cool engine
4. Alloy wheel
5. Anti roll bar
6. Automatic transmission
7. Battery
8. Body shell
9. Borg- warner overdrive
10. Brakes
11. Cooling fan
12. Crank case and fly wheel
13. Cylinder head
14. Double clutch shift
15. Electrical system
16. Engine
17. Exhaust
18. Ferguson four wheel drive
19. Fuel gauge
20. Fuel injection
21. Gear liver
22. Handling
23. Hemi-Head engine
24. Hydragas suspension
25. Hydrolastic suspension
26. Hydropnumatic suspension
27. Laycock over drive
28. The oil filter
29. The oil pressure gauge
30. Oil lubrication
31. Oil pump
32. Overdrive
33. Panel beating
34. Piston
35. Pollution
36. Prototype
37. Radiator
38. Spark plugs
39. Speedo
40. Spring
41. Stater motor
42. Steam engine
43. Steamlining
44. Steering
45. Suppressor
46. Synchromesh
47. Tachometer
48. Tappets
49. Temperature gauge
50. Tyres
51. Torsin bar suspension
52. Transmission
53. Tubor & supercharge
54. Valves
55. Variomatic transmission
56. Water cooling system
57. Wheel alignment
2015/07/23, 21:46 - Pafestula: That's A-Z about Mercedes Benz
2015/07/23, 21:48 - Oyibo: Prof, interested in 6
2015/07/23, 21:48 - Pafestula: Tonight?
2015/07/23, 21:49 - Oyibo: If u can still deliver
2015/07/23, 21:49 - Oyibo: But if not anytime
2015/07/23, 21:50 - Pafestula: Ok
2015/07/23, 21:51 - Oyibo: 👍
2015/07/23, 21:52 - +234 803 461 4675: 🔫
2015/07/23, 21:52 - Pafestula: Let me just copy it from my file and past for u..
2015/07/23, 21:53 - Pafestula: So u read it and digest it, so u ask question about it later
2015/07/23, 21:53 - Oyibo: Ok
2015/07/23, 21:53 - Oyibo: Good
2015/07/23, 21:53 - Pafestula: The Auto
Transmission
can be traced
back to one
of the most
unlikely
people you
would expect
- none other
than Nicholas ('Cruel Sea') Monsarrat - who developed an
automatic gearshift in 1921 at the age of eleven. It was an
infinitely variable ratio system with a governor, collar and
ratchet. He showed it to his house master who analysed it
carefully. He discovered that it would change up but not down.
Monsarrat was discouraged from finding the solution in school
time and turned to less mechanical pursuits. But where he
failed, others succeeded.
The Automatic really started to find favour with motorists,
particularly American motorists, after the 2nd World War. Year
after year, manufacturers increased the percentage of automatic
models and, by as long ago as 1969, only around 10% of all
cars sold in the States were fitted with a manual cog-changer.
That 10% was largely made up of imported sports cars, and
Volkswagen Beetles . Things were not so much different here in
Australia either. Sales figures for 1970 show that only 32% of
Chrysler Valiant's sold that year were fitted with a manual
transmission.
2015/07/23, 21:54 - Pafestula: Low Power + Automatic = No Power
Automatic transmission systems (or rather the desire for them)
were not new. When motor cars evolved to the point that they
were comfortable to ride in, there began the search for added
refinement and ease of driving. Most prominent of the dreams
of early motorists was automation. There were manifold
problems to overcome, not the least of which was the inability
of early engines to pull their own weight let alone push around
an automobile and have even more power robbed by the
fitment of an automatic transmission. Many weird but hardly
wonderful systems were tried and abandoned. Belts sliding
down cones or jumping from one pulley to another of different
size soon proved impractical as faster engine speeds were
achieved.
2015/07/23, 21:55 - Pafestula: A centrifugal clutch with high and low speed ranges was
available on the Sturtevant car from America in 1904. It came
and went. Friction drive as employed on the Metz cars before
the Great War survived for a number of years. Apart from
giving the Metz and infinitely variable set of ratios the friction
drive also gave high returns in fuel economy. Unfortunately
(because friction drive was a simple and efficient system) it had
one distinct drawback. The linings employed on the friction
wheel could not stand slippage and soon wore flat-spots which
gave the car an interesting kangaroo motion accompanied by
severe thuds and bangs.
2015/07/23, 21:56 - Pafestula: The Owen Magnetic
Electrically based transmissions seemed to offer distinct
possibilities. The Owen Magnetic, once again from America, was
one of the first cars to use a non-positive connection between
engine and driving wheels with the substitution of a motor
generator for clutch and gearbox. The stator, or field windings,
was mounted on the engine in place of the flywheel and the
armature was mounted on the drive-shaft. Rotation of the
engine and field coils created a magnetic attraction on the
armature and when the coils were energized by the control
switch on the steering column the drive shaft turned.
This system, like friction drive, offered an infinite number of
speeds and had the added advantage of being a brake or
reverse gear simply by reversal of current in the windings. The
Owen Magnetic operated smoothly but its electric transmission
was heavy, complex and expensive - three good reasons for its
extinction. But, with certain modifications, electric
gearchanging was offered on a number of cars right up to the
early fifties when the last examples of the Cotal system, as
employed on Delage and Delahaye, disappeared. The Cotal
was an epicyclic box using a number of flat discs made from
magnetic iron to control the various elements of the
mechanism.
2015/07/23, 21:58 - Pafestula: No time to summarized it
2015/07/23, 21:59 - Oyibo: Very educative
2015/07/23, 21:59 - Pafestula: Or do u have a particular question about automatic transmission?
2015/07/23, 21:59 - Pafestula: If yes, tell me
2015/07/23, 21:59 - Oyibo: No per sa
2015/07/23, 21:59 - Zadoc: Mek i copy prof style enter houz ne?
2015/07/23, 22:00 - Oyibo: Just want to knw d history abt it
2015/07/23, 22:00 - Pafestula: Ok let me add more for u then..lol
2015/07/23, 22:00 - +234 803 461 4675: Popularly educative. Annoyingly educative
2015/07/23, 22:00 - Oyibo: But can u send d file a-z of Benz to my mail
2015/07/23, 22:00 - Zadoc: Gud even'n abi night my Ogas!
2015/07/23, 22:00 - Oyibo: Want to ve it
2015/07/23, 22:01 - Pafestula: The Hudson Electric Hand
The gear lever operated a simple switch controlling current from
the car battery to the electromagnets. Four speeds were provided
and except for depressing the clutch for the initial selection of
first gear, driving was simply a matter of shifting the lever
from gate to gate. There was a certain amount of strain on the
mechanism and gearbox collapse was not unknown. Hudson
also offered an electric shift. It was combined with vacuum
operation and is best described by its title, 'Electric Hand'. A
complicated mass of wiring, levers and vacuum cylinders bolted
to the normal Hudson gearbox were actuated by a miniature
gear lever on the steering column. Requiring constant attention
and maintenance, the 'Electric Hand', had one good feature - it
could be readily replaced by the normal Hudson gearbox top
and lever.
2015/07/23, 22:01 - Pafestula: Dr. Fottinger and the Hydraulic Torque Converter
Another system which proved successful but was not widely
known was that employed by the Reo company. Centrifugally
activated governor weights and lockable multiple discs took over
at speeds above fourteen mph leaving the depression of the
clutch for selection of 'drive' as the only movement required of
the driver. But full automation was still not available. Sliding
wheels and electricity then, were not the answer. It was left to
Archimedes and his ancient formulae to provide the basis for
successful automatic transmission. The first interpretation of
ancient theories in modern terms came with the invention of
the fluid coupling and hydraulic torque converter by Dr.
Fottinger of the Vulcan-Werke shipbuilding concern in Hamburg
in 1905.
2015/07/23, 22:01 - Amg: @prof festo, 27
2015/07/23, 22:02 - Pafestula: The Fottinger hydraulic torque converter was eventually
developed in 1912 gave a speed reduction of 5 to 1 and
efficiency of about 88%. The British took the hydraulic coupling
(in the form of the Daimler and Lanchester fluid flywheel) to
their hearts and left the torque converter to the Americans. The
good use they made of it is self evident. Early attempts at
utilizing hydraulic pressure to transfer engine power were
usually spectacularly unsuccessful. Unable to hold the huge
pressures generated, the casings in these early experimental cars
would blow apart in the messiest possible way. It was only
really after WW2 that both hydraulic pressures and the cost of
manufacture which inhibited the first systems came down to
an affordable price.
2015/07/23, 22:02 - Zadoc: >======>
2015/07/23, 22:02 - Pafestula: The Hydra-Matic
In 1939 Oldsmobiie introduced the Hydra-Matic transmission
which was to know such varied application. Rolls-Royce
manufactured it under licence and at the other end of the scale
Hydra-Matic eased the work load on Aussie Holden drivers. The
Hydra-Matic, as finally developed, provided the total
automation which had eluded inventors for so many years. Its
built-in control system combined balanced hydraulic pressures
dependent on car speed, engine speed and the demands of the
driver expressed through the accelerator pedal.
2015/07/23, 22:03 - Pafestula: The control system was tremendously complex, weight was
excessive and power losses were considerable. However these
difficulties were overcome and Hydra-Matic became a national
institution in the American car. In the same year as the release
of Hydra-Matic, Chrysler introduced a transmission called
Vacamatic. This consited of a multi-vane coupling with a
central reservoir, a friction clutch and a more or less
conventional four-speed synchromesh gearbox. A vacuum and
electric control unit gave automatic gear changing. Other car
makers in America and overseas followed General Motors with
their torque converter automatic transmission and it was this
type which (in varying guises) that was fitted to the majority of
automatic vehicles throughout the last century.
2015/07/23, 22:03 - Pafestula: The Daimler Fluidrive
In England, the fluid-fiy wheel claimed the attention of
engineers to the exclusion of completely automatic systems.
Fitted to the Daimler in 1930 and called the Fluidrive, it offered
wonderfully smooth operation, but not full automation. The
two main parts of the fluid-flywheel were the runner connected
with the gearbox and the casing bolted to the engine
crankshaft. Transmission of power depended upon oil
circulation between the pockets on the runner and casing. The
behaviour of the fluid-flywheel clutch was governed almost
entirely by engine speed and not load.
2015/07/23, 22:04 - Pafestula: The Wilson Pre-Selector
The Wilson pre-selector gearbox also gained favor and relatively
wide usage in England. It gave a certain amount of
automation in that the driver selected the required gear and
engaged it at will by thumping the clutch pedal. Preselector
gearboxes were fitted to racing cars and proved efficient and
durable. Daimler combined the Wilson preselector gearbox with
their fluid-flywheel on a number of models. Weight was a
handicap, and some people found them difficult to use
(including Tazio Nuvolari in the MG Magnette). The early fifties
saw the last serious usage of the preselector set up.
The Hobbs automatic transmission had been in the
development stage in England for many years and in 1950
was employed on commercial vehicles. It consisted basically of
three epicyclic trains controlled by five friction discs. The drive
was automatically connected when the engine speed fell below
a preset figure. Although no clutch pedal was needed,
gearchanging was not automatic but responded to the
movement of the gear lever .
Borg-Warner
The Borg-Warner company in England developed an automatic
transmission system similar in basic design to the Hydra-
Matic. Available in two variations, type 35 for cars with an
engine capacity between 1.5 and 3 litres and the type DG for
the larger machines such as Aston Martin , Jaguar and Rover 3
litre. Borg-Warner's unit comprised a three element torque
converter and planetary gearbox. The DG gained favor in the
early fifties, notably fitted to the Jaguar Mk VII. The Rootes
Group began using the type 35 on their mid-range cars in the
early 1960s.
Possibly the greatest contemporary advance in the automatic
field was the development by BMC of a completely new unit for
their Mini De Luxe . The system was controlled by a selector lever
and gate mounted centrally on the floor in a similar position
to the gear change on the manual Mini De Luxe. The selector
could engage seven positions - reverse, neutral and drive for
normal automatic operations, and first, second, third and
fourth gears for manual operation or if over-ride of automatic
drive was required. The system can be used in three different
ways.
The first was as a fully automatic four-speed transmission from
rest to maximum speed with the gears changing
automatically. A 'kickdown' on the accelerator pedal
immediately produced an appropriate gear for maximum
acceleration. The 2nd was with complete manual control of all
four gears by use of the selector lever. This allowed the driver to
make rapid changes at whatever speed they wanteds. It also
allowed for full engine braking in 2nd, 3rd, or 4th gears when
descending hills. 3. It is possible to engage any gear and use
the very smooth characteristics of the torque converter which
coupled the engine to the automatic transmission to start from
rest.
The successful adaptation of automatic transmission to small
engines had been the great stumbling block of manufacturers
for many years. With the successful performance of such cars as
the Toyota 700 and Corolla from Japan, the Mini from
England and the Dutch Daf (with belts and pulleys) the joys of
automatic transmission were no longer restricted to the buyer
able to purchase larger engined and larger priced vehicles.
Looking back on the early automatic systems today, it is
obvious that many had their faults. The damper on the
flywheel in Hydra-Matic units tended to chew out the splines.
Up to the 1965 XP Falcon there was a problem with hardened
seals preventing the engagement of top gear. Due to the use of
debatable quality oil, pre-VC model Valiants often suffered from
a delay in shifting as varnish from the oil gradually gummed
up the works.
Today the difference in fuel consumption between auto and
manual cars is slight, if any. But 20+ years ago fuel
consumption was nearly always higher on automatic models
and this was a point against them.
2015/07/23, 22:04 - Pafestula: Na you say you need history oooo
2015/07/23, 22:05 - Id410: I must greet you Prof Festo!
2015/07/23, 22:06 - Pafestula: Though am going to compile everything and make it a booklet.
2015/07/23, 22:06 - Pafestula: All the topics, for easy access and reading sake
2015/07/23, 22:07 - Pafestula: Evening Mr. O.D.B
2015/07/23, 22:08 - Oyibo: I will be d first person to buy
2015/07/23, 22:09 - Oyibo: Hw soon will d book be ready
2015/07/23, 22:09 - Pafestula: I'm serious
2015/07/23, 22:09 - Pafestula: I will update the house
2015/07/23, 22:09 - Id410: Make it an ebook as well oo
2015/07/23, 22:09 - Id410: For quick access online
2015/07/23, 22:09 - Pafestula: Sure..
2015/07/23, 22:12 - Pafestula: We have some auto technicians in the house, but since they are too busy to solve our problems, so I volunteered myself with my little knowledge to rescue us from kazeems.
2015/07/23, 22:13 - Id410: Well done Sir!
2015/07/23, 22:13 - SMARTCHOICE: Good one @ festo....been busy hope to cover your back soon
2015/07/23, 22:15 - SMARTCHOICE: To all new members who have refused to introduce themselves this notice serves as last notice before your non reversible removal
2015/07/23, 22:15 - Oyibo: @smart, pls Co author d book A-Z of m/benz
2015/07/23, 22:15 - Oyibo: Ghen ghen
2015/07/23, 22:16 - Id410: 📢 ina don hear Last warning!
2015/07/23, 22:16 - Id410: Let's all co-author oo
2015/07/23, 22:16 - SMARTCHOICE: Co author ke? No honors for Dele
2015/07/23, 22:17 - Id410: My take as members of the forum
2015/07/23, 22:17 - Pafestula: The articles is all about Mercedes Benz, I got it since 2013 from west Germany, but was saved on a disc, and flash drive, just extracting them from flash drive to laptop, then print the whole topic out and be using it as my four figure table.😜, I want to be dictating anyone I can't DIY for kazeem
2015/07/23, 22:17 - Id410: For all forumites
2015/07/23, 22:17 - SMARTCHOICE: That honor is for Dele I mean
2015/07/23, 22:17 - Oyibo: 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨_coming soon on new members
2015/07/23, 22:17 - Id410: As our issues led to the r&d of this great book
2015/07/23, 22:18 - Id410: My opinion oo
2015/07/23, 22:20 - Oyibo: @dele, over to u
2015/07/23, 22:20 - Dele: No co author tonight abeg ooo
2015/07/23, 22:20 - Dele: I get exams tomorrow morning
2015/07/23, 22:21 - Pafestula: Come let me give u expo
2015/07/23, 22:21 - Dele: Prof, na oral exam
2015/07/23, 22:22 - Pafestula: Ha
2015/07/23, 22:22 - Dele: So which expo you wan give me
2015/07/23, 22:22 - Id410: Lol
2015/07/23, 22:22 - Dele: Na Germany I see oral exam for physics
2015/07/23, 22:22 - Dele: All my exams are oral
2015/07/23, 22:23 - Oyibo: O boy
2015/07/23, 22:23 - Id410: Wow
2015/07/23, 22:23 - Oyibo: Oral exam for physics
2015/07/23, 22:23 - Id410: And I was planning to do masters dere some years ago
2015/07/23, 22:23 - Id410: Choi!
2015/07/23, 22:23 - Dele: I tell you
2015/07/23, 22:24 - Id410: Men odikwa risky
2015/07/23, 22:24 - Dele: Oral exam without exception
2015/07/23, 22:24 - Pafestula: Ich wünsche Ihnen viel Glück in Ihrem Hervorkommen Prüfung morgen, ich wünschte, um zu helfen, aber da Sie sagte, dass es oral, möge Gott mit euch sein. Amen
2015/07/23, 22:24 - Dele: High tension
2015/07/23, 22:24 - Dele: Amen
2015/07/23, 22:24 - Dele: Dein deutsch ist gut
2015/07/23, 22:24 - Id410: Translate!
2015/07/23, 22:25 - Dele: Nein, hoch
2015/07/23, 22:26 - Oyibo: Translate ooooo
2015/07/23, 22:26 - Pafestula: Yes Dele, thanks for the compliment
2015/07/23, 22:26 - Dele: He wishes me goodluck in my forthcoming exam. He wants to help, bit since I said it's oral, he wishes me Godspeed
2015/07/23, 22:26 - Dele: Amen
2015/07/23, 22:26 - Pafestula: ✔✔✔✔✔✔
2015/07/23, 22:26 - Dele: Vielen Dank Festo
2015/07/23, 22:27 - Id410: Amen! Godspeed!
2015/07/23, 22:27 - Id410: Wish you good success!
2015/07/23, 22:27 - Dele: Tha
2015/07/23, 22:27 - Dele: Thanks
2015/07/23, 22:27 - Oyibo: Success broda
2015/07/23, 22:28 - Pafestula: Sie sind in hohem Grade willkommen sir@ Dele
2015/07/23, 22:29 - Pafestula: There entire German machine family.. Catch u later..👊
2015/07/23, 22:29 - Dele: 👊👊
2015/07/23, 22:29 - Dele: <============🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃
2015/07/23, 22:30 - Oyibo: Come back oooo
2015/07/23, 22:30 - Oyibo: Me too dey go my bed too
2015/07/23, 22:55 - Trafford: Jst got 2 site after a rough n rainy day... let. Me take my time n read all mgs here... over 350
2015/07/23, 23:10 - Zadoc: Chaiiii,thumbs up 👍 4 Prof. Ds na truck load of knowledge ooooo,wc u don dash us 4 free!
2015/07/23, 23:10 - Zadoc: My d Almighty bless u abundantly.
2015/07/23, 23:11 - Zadoc: But prof students suppose get "Course outline" n "Handouts" na.
2015/07/23, 23:11 - Zadoc: As in "Referrences" 2 go back to n read up!
2015/07/23, 23:12 - Zadoc: So shud we await 1?
2015/07/23, 23:29 - Zadoc: If prof cud print it out in a book form,wud really help us all. So 2nded Sir!
2015/07/23, 23:31 - Zadoc: Hav lots of interesting n some educative benz videos 2 share! Bt na data things oooooo.
2015/07/23, 23:32 - Zadoc: Anywayz,1 gud turn deserves anoda
2015/07/24, 00:54 - Austyn44: Just finished going through my messages.
2015/07/24, 00:55 - Austyn44: Festo is the man! Thanks boss! For this info and the soon to be released book.
2015/07/24, 00:55 - Austyn44: More grease to your elbow
2015/07/24, 01:34 - Adehun: Hmnn, now I don wake o, oga festo come back, everyone Wey don sleep, come o,
2015/07/24, 06:17 - +234 817 930 9914: @Festo u re d best bro
2015/07/24, 06:18 - +234 817 930 9914: just went tru ur lecture now. wat an educative one. Tnks for giving nd promotin d star brand
2015/07/24, 06:23 - +234 817 930 9914: Gud mornin gud pple
2015/07/24, 06:24 - Yunusa: Good morning house
2015/07/24, 06:24 - Yunusa: @Tj how far
2015/07/24, 06:24 - +234 817 930 9914: bro i bam
2015/07/24, 06:24 - +234 817 930 9914: hw was ur nyt bro
2015/07/24, 06:24 - Yunusa: Fine o
2015/07/24, 06:25 - Yunusa: I go enta Zaria today then Kano 2moro after class God willing
2015/07/24, 06:26 - +234 817 930 9914: By God grace
2015/07/24, 06:26 - +234 817 930 9914: wish u safe trip
2015/07/24, 06:26 - Yunusa: Ya and am driving all d way so keep fuel 4 me o
2015/07/24, 06:26 - Yunusa: Thanks Bro
2015/07/24, 06:26 - +234 817 930 9914: no wahala
2015/07/24, 06:27 - Yunusa: 👍👊
2015/07/24, 07:46 - Oyibo: Gd Morin house
2015/07/24, 07:47 - Oyibo: Hope we all slept well
2015/07/24, 07:49 - +234 803 397 1913: 44
2015/07/24, 08:01 - +234 703 799 0298: Morning
2015/07/24, 08:13 - Trafford: Good morning my ppl... @ Ayodele... I slept well and I believe we al did
2015/07/24, 08:21 - Viazi: Una good morning
2015/07/24, 08:21 - Viazi: GEJ, hope your baby is fine?
2015/07/24, 08:23 - Trafford: My baby was fine wen I left it yesterday for some short trip. Missing it already... hope you're good bro @ hybridsolicitor
2015/07/24, 08:26 - Viazi: Ok
2015/07/24, 11:41 - Adehun: Morning bosses
2015/07/24, 11:41 - Adehun: Just landed in ilorin ,
2015/07/24, 11:41 - Adehun: I did a reset on my trip counter before I left ado
2015/07/24, 11:42 - Adehun: I wanted to watch my Mpg and indeed it was wonderful
2015/07/24, 11:44 - Zadoc: So how was d MPG @Shola?
2015/07/24, 11:44 - Zadoc: Is it ur 99 C280 Benz?
2015/07/24, 12:07 - Adehun: just before I left Ado Ekiti,
2015/07/24, 12:07 - Adehun: I did 157.6 km from my house to uni ilorin campus , the picture below show, the little fuel I consumed , despite the fact that my car carries a V6 12 plugs engine, I now knw dat the best machine that Benz made is C280 w202
2015/07/24, 12:19 - Adehun: Yea
2015/07/24, 12:30 - Adehun: IMG-20150724-WA0021.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/24, 12:33 - Adehun: IMG-20150724-WA0022.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/24, 12:40 - Kewt: @Sola, Indeed ur MPG is cool. What's d capacity of ur full tank?
2015/07/24, 12:43 - Aikerism: Can't see the pic yet...
2015/07/24, 12:43 - Aikerism: Good day house...
2015/07/24, 12:43 - Viazi: Y
2015/07/24, 12:45 - +234 803 491 1766: Hybrid hailins
2015/07/24, 12:45 - Adehun: Like 65 litres I guess
2015/07/24, 12:46 - Adehun: But I bought 40ltres dis am
2015/07/24, 12:46 - Viazi: @ Ejiz greetings
2015/07/24, 12:47 - Kewt: 40ltrs to top up I guess
2015/07/24, 12:53 - Kewt: @Sola .... If full tank is 65 ltrs, and ur Guage is almost at half tank, from d position of ur Guage now, one can validly assume u consumed at abt 22.5 ltrs. Given d abv estimated stats, ur MPG is 7km/ltr or 0.14ltr/km
2015/07/24, 13:02 - Aikerism: Just back from the V.I.O Office... My tags are ready...
2015/07/24, 13:05 - Aikerism: @ Shola Since we have the same car, I will do dis exact thing and compare
2015/07/24, 13:05 - Aikerism: IMG-20150724-WA0023.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/24, 13:16 - Amg: @shola, i think that's alot fuel consumption compare to my car
2015/07/24, 13:16 - Viazi: Hmnnnn
2015/07/24, 13:18 - Amg: 157km should be approximate 2hrs journey
2015/07/24, 13:30 - SMARTCHOICE: Thank God for journey mercies
2015/07/24, 13:38 - Aikerism: @ RX what kind do u drive?
2015/07/24, 13:40 - Amg: IMG-20150724-WA0024.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/24, 13:41 - Amg: IMG-20150724-WA0025.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/24, 13:41 - Amg: Thats it
2015/07/24, 13:41 - Amg: Kompressor c230
2015/07/24, 13:43 - Amg: Thats it @Aikerism
2015/07/24, 13:45 - Jonaboy: Hello house, I am at mt Kazeem place and just saw this CLA and feel like sharing the pictures with the house. The engine looks quite different from the normal Benz engine I am used to seeing.
2015/07/24, 13:50 - Jonaboy: The pictures are taking longer to load as my network is slow but still load them.
2015/07/24, 13:52 - Viazi: @ Gej😀😀Kazeem
2015/07/24, 13:53 - Aikerism: @ Sosi... I see ur baiby...
2015/07/24, 13:53 - +234 803 391 8271: @ Jonathan. I pray say your mechanic no be kazeem
2015/07/24, 13:54 - Amg: @aikerism, wagonGang, lol
2015/07/24, 13:55 - Aikerism: Master Sosi, Temmidee and Aikerism... The WagonGang!!!
2015/07/24, 13:55 - Trafford: Hhahahahahaha.. I called a nairalander yesterday n he referred me to a pro in Ph... so no Kazeem abi Gaza is needed o... lolz 😄
2015/07/24, 13:55 - Amg: 😤
2015/07/24, 13:56 - Aikerism: Where are U based @ Sosi?
2015/07/24, 13:57 - Aikerism: U were the one who took ur car to one mega place for servicing abi?
2015/07/24, 13:57 - Amg: Presently, benin. Yes sir @aikerism
2015/07/24, 13:58 - Amg: That was benz company in enugu
2015/07/24, 13:58 - Aikerism: Okay...
2015/07/24, 13:58 - Aikerism: They have good hands there right?
2015/07/24, 13:59 - Amg: They act and perform like d name of the company
2015/07/24, 13:59 - Aikerism: Hmmm
2015/07/24, 14:00 - Amg: They are too good, some of the workers there are bsc engr with other trainings abroad
2015/07/24, 14:01 - Ralph: Pls sosi,wia is dt in enugu?
2015/07/24, 14:01 - Amg: They communicate like you are in school, u hear real names of parts not wat we hear in oda workshop
2015/07/24, 14:02 - +234 803 461 4675: Ota to Ado in 6.5hrs. Wtf? Benz try small. I am back home now.
2015/07/24, 14:02 - Amg: B4 airport
2015/07/24, 14:02 - Amg: Along Emene
2015/07/24, 14:02 - Ralph: Ok,thnx
2015/07/24, 14:02 - Amg: It's just cash
2015/07/24, 14:03 - Ralph: No wahala
2015/07/24, 14:06 - Aikerism: What did u do there the last time u visited?
2015/07/24, 14:09 - Amg: Airflow, then they changed the plug wires complaining they were longer than normal that it will slow down electrical information
2015/07/24, 14:10 - Aikerism: This my new moto dey shack me...
2015/07/24, 14:10 - Amg: They claim they bought their diagnostic machine for abt 750k
2015/07/24, 14:10 - Aikerism: I will find such a place here in abuja...
2015/07/24, 14:11 - Amg: Alliance with germans
2015/07/24, 14:11 - Aikerism: I want to take care of sensitive things in such places... Than using most of our mechanics that are " just trying"
2015/07/24, 14:12 - Aikerism: Things like transmission related issues... Etc
2015/07/24, 14:12 - Aikerism: Hmmmmmm
2015/07/24, 14:12 - Amg: Bravo
2015/07/24, 14:38 - SMARTCHOICE: Aikerism are you planning to change your engine?
2015/07/24, 14:44 - Aikerism: Naaaaaa!!!!
2015/07/24, 14:44 - Aikerism: NEVER!!!
2015/07/24, 14:44 - Aikerism: Just that these Onyibo ppl that used this cars care for them like humans
2015/07/24, 14:44 - Aikerism: They don't do guess work and road side kazzeems
2015/07/24, 14:45 - Aikerism: That's y d cars are always in good condition when we get them
2015/07/24, 14:45 - Aikerism: Then after we use them for 3 years everything falls apart
2015/07/24, 14:45 - Viazi: 😀
2015/07/24, 14:46 - Aikerism: I wouldn't mind doing my servicing with ppl who know their onions and garlic
2015/07/24, 14:46 - SMARTCHOICE: Engine must be swapped
2015/07/24, 14:46 - Viazi: 😀
2015/07/24, 14:46 - Aikerism: Haba
2015/07/24, 14:46 - Aikerism: Y?
2015/07/24, 14:46 - Aikerism: I love my engine o biko
2015/07/24, 14:47 - SMARTCHOICE: For a 4 cylinder engine for fuel economy!
2015/07/24, 14:47 - Aikerism: IMG-20150724-WA0026.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/24, 14:47 - Aikerism: Right now I don't care about any stupid economy
2015/07/24, 14:47 - Aikerism: I love my monster
2015/07/24, 14:47 - Aikerism: U need to see me take off
2015/07/24, 14:47 - SMARTCHOICE: Then thermostat should be removed to prevent overheating
2015/07/24, 14:48 - Aikerism: Hahahahahahahahaha
2015/07/24, 14:48 - Aikerism: Make I catch the person wey go touch dis motor with dirty hand sef...
2015/07/24, 14:48 - Aikerism: 😡
2015/07/24, 14:49 - Aikerism: I WON'T take it to a place where they will jack it up and put stone under
2015/07/24, 14:49 - Viazi: I need to top his gear oil with Abro ATF bcos oyibo no sabi gauge am
2015/07/24, 14:49 - Viazi: 😀
2015/07/24, 14:49 - SMARTCHOICE: Fan clutch must be welded together also if not available then auxiliary fans should be connected directly
2015/07/24, 14:49 - Aikerism: No way sir!
2015/07/24, 14:49 - Aikerism: Hahahahahahahaha...
2015/07/24, 14:49 - Aikerism: Dey will just put stone under anywia dey like
2015/07/24, 14:50 - Aikerism: Even close to the fuel lines or even on it sef no shaking
2015/07/24, 14:50 - Aikerism: To go and test ur car dey will enter it with oily clothes...
2015/07/24, 14:50 - SMARTCHOICE: A good way to kazeem your car!
2015/07/24, 14:50 - Aikerism: No respect for the star brand
2015/07/24, 14:51 - Aikerism: dey can't even invest in pallet for raising vehicles
2015/07/24, 14:51 - Viazi: We have to raise the suspension for better clearance
2015/07/24, 14:51 - Aikerism: U will see oil stains all over just because they opened bonnet
2015/07/24, 14:53 - Aikerism: We will soon get good places and have them treat our cars better... Afterall we pay for the services
2015/07/24, 14:54 - SMARTCHOICE: Inflate tyres to 50PSI
2015/07/24, 14:55 - Aikerism: Kaiiiii...
2015/07/24, 14:55 - Aikerism: That's another issue
2015/07/24, 14:55 - Aikerism: But truly when I look into the fuel door of my car... Are those values realistic?
2015/07/24, 14:55 - Brightcom: Smart is 50 d best Guage for our tyres?
2015/07/24, 14:56 - SMARTCHOICE: Yes I run them
2015/07/24, 14:56 - SMARTCHOICE: I run 32/35 front 35 back
2015/07/24, 14:57 - SMARTCHOICE: 50? No way
2015/07/24, 14:57 - Brightcom: Dtz too low nah
2015/07/24, 14:58 - Brightcom: I normally use 45 but i saw 50 from u now n was surprised
2015/07/24, 14:58 - SMARTCHOICE: Who can guess one of the most expensive systems to replace in a Benz
2015/07/24, 14:58 - SMARTCHOICE: @cash no way
2015/07/24, 14:58 - Amg: Brain box
2015/07/24, 14:59 - SMARTCHOICE: No!
2015/07/24, 14:59 - Amg: Fuel tank?
2015/07/24, 14:59 - SMARTCHOICE: No!
2015/07/24, 15:00 - Brightcom: Gear box
2015/07/24, 15:00 - SMARTCHOICE: No!
2015/07/24, 15:00 - Amg: The whole car
2015/07/24, 15:00 - SMARTCHOICE: Lol
2015/07/24, 15:00 - Brightcom: Lolz
2015/07/24, 15:00 - Amg: Lol, i give up
2015/07/24, 15:01 - SMARTCHOICE: The suspension system"
2015/07/24, 15:01 - SMARTCHOICE: !
2015/07/24, 15:01 - Amg: Hmmm
2015/07/24, 15:01 - SMARTCHOICE: It involves more than shocks
2015/07/24, 15:02 - Brightcom: Hmmmm
2015/07/24, 15:02 - Brightcom: How much does it cost?
2015/07/24, 15:02 - SMARTCHOICE: OEM?
2015/07/24, 15:14 - Aikerism: IMG-20150725-WA0012.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/24, 15:15 - Cneo: Airmatic suspension
2015/07/24, 15:16 - Cneo: Headlamps from 2010
2015/07/24, 15:19 - Femi Nnpc: The SBC?
2015/07/24, 15:19 - Femi Nnpc: For a 2004 211
2015/07/24, 15:27 - Aikerism: Hmmmmm
2015/07/24, 15:40 - Brightcom: Yes @smart
2015/07/24, 16:24 - SMARTCHOICE: OEM suspension for which model?
2015/07/24, 16:24 - SMARTCHOICE: @cashmoney
2015/07/24, 16:26 - Brightcom: C180
2015/07/24, 16:26 - SMARTCHOICE: W204 or w203
2015/07/24, 16:27 - Brightcom: W202
2015/07/24, 16:49 - SMARTCHOICE: Internet is bad here
2015/07/24, 16:55 - Brightcom: Sorry bro
2015/07/24, 16:55 - Brightcom: Later sha
2015/07/24, 17:26 - SMARTCHOICE: Control arm ball joint OEM $43 - $27
2015/07/24, 17:27 - +234 803 491 1766: Oga smart does 07 c230 hv a 1.8l engine
2015/07/24, 17:29 - +234 803 461 4675: Hmm
2015/07/24, 17:29 - SMARTCHOICE: Springs front genuine Mercedes 2 $91
2015/07/24, 17:30 - +234 803 461 4675: OEM Aba
2015/07/24, 17:30 - SMARTCHOICE: Rear springs Genuine Mercedes $91
2015/07/24, 17:30 - Oyibo: Hw far
2015/07/24, 17:30 - Oyibo: Wit ur gear issue
2015/07/24, 17:30 - Oyibo: Has it been rectified
2015/07/24, 17:30 - SMARTCHOICE: Not OEM original Mercedes
2015/07/24, 17:32 - SMARTCHOICE: Sport spring starts from $280
2015/07/24, 17:34 - SMARTCHOICE: Camber struts $49 rear both
2015/07/24, 17:37 - SMARTCHOICE: Shocks front $158 each
2015/07/24, 17:37 - SMARTCHOICE: Shocks rear $197 each
2015/07/24, 17:41 - SMARTCHOICE: Subframe kit rear forward $104
2015/07/24, 17:41 - SMARTCHOICE: Subframe kit rear back $123
2015/07/24, 17:43 - Brightcom: Woow
2015/07/24, 17:43 - Viazi: Them dey last na
2015/07/24, 17:44 - Viazi: Even OEM Camry is 80 for 2 back
2015/07/24, 17:44 - Brightcom: Yes i knw
2015/07/24, 17:45 - Adehun: Cash money !!!!
2015/07/24, 17:46 - Brightcom: Yes boss!!!!!
2015/07/24, 17:46 - Brightcom: 🏃🏃🏃🏃
2015/07/24, 17:50 - SMARTCHOICE: Control arm front left lower $482....
Front right $482
2015/07/24, 17:51 - SMARTCHOICE: Upper control arm both $244 each
2015/07/24, 17:52 - Adehun: How ur side sir
2015/07/24, 17:52 - SMARTCHOICE: Control arm bushing kit $92:50
2015/07/24, 17:52 - SMARTCHOICE: For each side
2015/07/24, 17:52 - Brightcom: Now i knw why u say dey r d costly
2015/07/24, 17:54 - SMARTCHOICE: Control arm bushing inner $12
2015/07/24, 17:54 - Mr Ajibade: Good day house!
2015/07/24, 17:54 - SMARTCHOICE: Control arm knuckle assembly $53:50
2015/07/24, 17:55 - Mr Ajibade: @oga smart does w203 c class come with airmatic suspension?
2015/07/24, 17:55 - SMARTCHOICE: Tie rod each $96:50
2015/07/24, 17:55 - Mr Ajibade: 2005 precisely
2015/07/24, 17:56 - SMARTCHOICE: Cashmoney give me a summation please.... Don't flee yet
2015/07/24, 17:57 - SMARTCHOICE: So while you start racing on these evil roads bear these costs in mind
2015/07/24, 17:57 - SMARTCHOICE: Especially if your car is still in top shape
2015/07/24, 17:57 - SMARTCHOICE: Case closed!
2015/07/24, 17:58 - SMARTCHOICE: Which of them sir @w203?
2015/07/24, 17:59 - Adehun: Abeg Wey oga festo !! E be like say only kwara state people dey use A class
2015/07/24, 17:59 - Adehun: E be like say na E class and S class dey use dat kain suspension system @ adedayo
2015/07/24, 18:00 - Mr Ajibade: Ok sir Good to hear that
2015/07/24, 18:02 - SMARTCHOICE: @adedayo ask a specific question you cannot group all 2005 c class models as one! Error of stereotyping or generalization ....
2015/07/24, 18:09 - SMARTCHOICE: Although it seems Benz only introduced airmatic to c class in 2015
2015/07/24, 18:24 - SMARTCHOICE: A class AMG badge .... 2013 355hp 450Nm torque 👀
2015/07/24, 18:52 - Danadam: The airmatic suspension is standard on all S class starting from w220
2015/07/24, 18:53 - Danadam: While it's an option on E class W211....
I.e. only on E500 and E550
2015/07/24, 18:55 - Danadam: I urge every member to "borrow" a benz with airmatic suspension, drive it for awhile on rough road then come back and give testimony
2015/07/24, 18:56 - Danadam: My next benz will most likely have an airmatic suspension😀
2015/07/24, 19:04 - SMARTCHOICE: Hmm
2015/07/24, 19:05 - SMARTCHOICE: Costs of replacement!
2015/07/24, 19:05 - SMARTCHOICE: Just ordinary suspension system cashmoney has fled without looking back...
2015/07/24, 19:06 - Brightcom: I no dey oooo
2015/07/24, 19:06 - Brightcom: Abeg i no ask again, na mistake
2015/07/24, 19:07 - Danadam: Cost of replacement is actually scary.... one unit of brand new airmatic shocks is 100k while tokunbo is 60k
2015/07/24, 19:08 - Danadam: By the time I get the car, the price go don reduce
2015/07/24, 19:08 - Brightcom: Na 20years from now u wan get am?
2015/07/24, 19:09 - Danadam: 3-4 yrs hopefully😄😃
2015/07/24, 19:14 - Brightcom: Amen
2015/07/24, 19:25 - Trafford left
2015/07/24, 19:31 - +234 817 930 9914: @Adam i feel u. i dey second dat ur prayer point
2015/07/24, 19:32 - Lomomike: Who comot 😠
2015/07/24, 19:33 - Brightcom: Jonathanighodaye
2015/07/24, 19:34 - Lomomike: Why?
2015/07/24, 19:35 - SMARTCHOICE: Claims ba3 could keep pace with forum chat
2015/07/24, 19:37 - Lomomike: Lol
2015/07/24, 19:40 - Pafestula: But why Festo comot
2015/07/24, 19:42 - Lomomike: Festo comot too?
2015/07/24, 19:43 - Pafestula: Imagine
2015/07/24, 19:43 - Pafestula: Na him comot that time
2015/07/24, 19:43 - Lomomike: Na wa o
2015/07/24, 19:44 - Brightcom: Festo change to Aj
2015/07/24, 19:44 - Brightcom: Festo can neva comot except he wan get High blood pressure
2015/07/24, 19:44 - Lomomike: Ok
2015/07/24, 19:46 - Lomomike: Lol
2015/07/24, 19:47 - Brightcom: Mike so u dont knw dt ur talking wt dt trouble making festo my inlaw?
2015/07/24, 19:48 - SMARTCHOICE: Festo stop changing id
2015/07/24, 19:48 - Lomomike: Lol
2015/07/24, 19:53 - Aikerism: Is "AJ" for Ajisdarra?
2015/07/24, 19:53 - Aikerism: Which one be *AJ* again?
2015/07/24, 19:55 - Kewt: #Pls bring back our Festo oh Mr lecturer
2015/07/24, 19:55 - Brightcom: Na him b Aj soon he go change to BH boko haram
2015/07/24, 19:59 - Aikerism: Lol
2015/07/24, 20:03 - Kewt: Dats how Festo changed his id to 234customcars recently and wanted to give some house members HBP
2015/07/24, 20:04 - Adehun: #bringbackfesto
2015/07/24, 20:04 - Kewt: He actually caught me unawares on dat one.
2015/07/24, 20:05 - Brightcom: I always catch him cos his my inlaw
2015/07/24, 20:09 - Aikerism: He caught me too with dat 234
2015/07/24, 20:09 - Aikerism: Hahahahahaha
2015/07/24, 20:09 - Aikerism: Festo oooo
2015/07/24, 20:09 - Aikerism: Come back
2015/07/24, 20:09 - SMARTCHOICE: Let me delist him briefly
2015/07/24, 20:22 - SMARTCHOICE: Discounttiredirect.com
2015/07/24, 20:22 - SMARTCHOICE: For all details about your wheels
2015/07/24, 20:23 - SMARTCHOICE: And acceptable .modifications
2015/07/24, 20:26 - +234 803 461 4675: AJ = Ajike
2015/07/24, 20:44 - Viazi: Is it true the Jonathan guy left?
2015/07/24, 20:45 - Dele: Hallo Allen
2015/07/24, 20:45 - Dele: Wie gehts?
2015/07/24, 20:46 - Dele: How una dey?
2015/07/24, 20:46 - Dele: Adams, I want to call you out o
2015/07/24, 20:47 - Dele: BTW thanks house for your exam wishes. It was good
2015/07/24, 20:54 - Zadoc: <Media omitted>
2015/07/24, 20:59 - Pafestula: Lol
2015/07/24, 21:00 - Pafestula: >=======>>> in
2015/07/24, 21:00 - Pafestula: Good evening house of German
2015/07/24, 21:06 - +234 803 491 1766: Prof festo evenin
2015/07/24, 21:06 - +234 803 491 1766: Evenin everyone
2015/07/24, 21:07 - Pafestula: Good news for the house.. The book compilation into Microsoft copy is almost done. 280 pages now so far and still counting
2015/07/24, 21:09 - Adehun: Oga festo
2015/07/24, 21:09 - Adehun: When is our lecture starting
2015/07/24, 21:10 - Lomomike: 280pages of wat?
2015/07/24, 21:10 - Pafestula: Or anyone can choose any area you want me to lecture about Mercedes Benz.
1.Aerodynamic
2. Air condition
3. Air cool engine
4. Alloy wheel
5. Anti roll bar
6. Automatic transmission
7. Battery
8. Body shell
9. Borg- warner overdrive
10. Brakes
11. Cooling fan
12. Crank case and fly wheel
13. Cylinder head
14. Double clutch shift
15. Electrical system
16. Engine
17. Exhaust
18. Ferguson four wheel drive
19. Fuel gauge
20. Fuel injection
21. Gear liver
22. Handling
23. Hemi-Head engine
24. Hydragas suspension
25. Hydrolastic suspension
26. Hydropnumatic suspension
27. Laycock over drive
28. The oil filter
29. The oil pressure gauge
30. Oil lubrication
31. Oil pump
32. Overdrive
33. Panel beating
34. Piston
35. Pollution
36. Prototype
37. Radiator
🔝
All treated
2015/07/24, 21:10 - Adehun: I saw series of A class in ilorin today, infact I almost jumped out of my skin when I saw one, pimped, with 16"chrome alloy wheels
2015/07/24, 21:10 - Pafestula: Wow..
2015/07/24, 21:10 - Pafestula: 👏👏👏👏
2015/07/24, 21:11 - Pafestula: Ilorin na sure city
2015/07/24, 21:11 - Adehun: And na old man dey drive am, I guess that's not his only benz, cos he admired mine too
2015/07/24, 21:11 - Lomomike: Which day pafestula turn prof of mech engineering (phd in automotive engry
2015/07/24, 21:12 - Adehun: I think I am havin a rethink on the "Ajidara " Class benz
2015/07/24, 21:12 - Pafestula: U missing good Benz @ Shola
2015/07/24, 21:13 - Viazi: I saw 1 at Shoprite Abuja today, I was blown away by the interior. I imagined my wife in it.
2015/07/24, 21:13 - Adehun: Infact dey have a very large no of benz users here o, do we have members in ilorin?
2015/07/24, 21:13 - Pafestula: Which day pafestula turn prof of mech engineering (phd in automotive energy)
@ Mike na now I wan sure my self
2015/07/24, 21:13 - Adehun: Kai!! Bros u need see dis one, I would snap it if I see it in uniilorin tomoro
2015/07/24, 21:14 - Lomomike: Lol
2015/07/24, 21:14 - Pafestula: I Which day pafestula turn prof of mech engineering (phd in automotive energy)
@ Mike na now I wan show my self
2015/07/24, 21:14 - Lomomike: Oya na
2015/07/24, 21:14 - Lomomike: But una suppose make me consultant lecturer for thi lecture o
2015/07/24, 21:15 - Pafestula: I saw series of A class in ilorin today, infact I almost jumped out of my skin when I saw one, pimped, with 16"chrome alloy wheels
Shebi una say na keke napep, and vespa tyre?
2015/07/24, 21:15 - Lomomike: Was a VIO computerized motor test centre in Abuja to apply for post of supervisor Engineering in their automobile test unit
2015/07/24, 21:15 - SMARTCHOICE: 😎😎😎😎😎😎
2015/07/24, 21:16 - Lomomike: They were asking me if I have Engineering degree
2015/07/24, 21:16 - Lomomike: I told them I am a town planner but I have a passion for cars and I have experience
2015/07/24, 21:16 - Lomomike: Guess what the HR said...
2015/07/24, 21:16 - Adehun: Ehn, I just wan change my mind ni, abi ,,, I underrated the little car, I was almost classifying it as the "ijapa" of Mercedes benz
2015/07/24, 21:17 - Pafestula: Lecture start by 9:30 pm tonight
2015/07/24, 21:17 - Pafestula: Get set@ all
2015/07/24, 21:18 - Lomomike: 😮
2015/07/24, 21:18 - Lomomike: So soon?
2015/07/24, 21:19 - Pafestula: Yes, cos I wanna sleep by 10pm
2015/07/24, 21:19 - Pafestula: Busy typing and compiling the book
2015/07/24, 21:19 - Lomomike: So as I was saying, the HR said something that was kinda offensive
2015/07/24, 21:20 - Lomomike: She called me a 'mechanic'
2015/07/24, 21:20 - Pafestula: Lol
2015/07/24, 21:20 - Adehun: 9.30? Oga are u are comin late to class
2015/07/24, 21:20 - Adehun: The VC must hear dis
2015/07/24, 21:21 - Lomomike: She said, 'I know you mechanics feel you know, but if we bring instruments can you identify them?
2015/07/24, 21:21 - Lomomike: Claiming she also can repair cars,but when I looked at her finger nails, they were long and painted well manicured
2015/07/24, 21:21 - Lomomike: An indication that she lied
2015/07/24, 21:21 - Dele: She must be ***** for saying that
2015/07/24, 21:22 - Pafestula: Educated kazeems are called Kazzy, while the olodo are Kazimu, so calling you mechanic with your level of education... Hmmm she would have called u Kazzy
2015/07/24, 21:22 - Lomomike: I had to call her to order and inform her that I am a property developer, but automobile is my passion, and its what gives me joy
2015/07/24, 21:23 - Pafestula: I had to call her to order and inform her that I am a property developer, but automobile is my passion, and its what gives me joy..
Seconded
2015/07/24, 21:23 - Lomomike: She was laying emphasis on paper and certificate but I was proving to her experience and passion supersedes them
2015/07/24, 21:24 - Adehun: I support you @ oga dele
2015/07/24, 21:25 - Lomomike: I left the place disappointed because quest for certificate and paper killed Nigerian technological growth
2015/07/24, 21:25 - Dele: Na all those women wey no know where bonnet lever dey for motor
2015/07/24, 21:25 - Lomomike: In Europe and Asia, passion is what took them to where they are
2015/07/24, 21:26 - Lomomike: Its like saying Bill gates isn't fit to type on a pc. But his vision and passion made him own Microsoft
2015/07/24, 21:26 - Pafestula: ✔👍
2015/07/24, 21:27 - Lomomike: She told me to apply sha and submit my CV at their security desk. But I made my mind, I wont
2015/07/24, 21:27 - Lomomike: I didn't go there because I was hungry, I went theRe because I had passion
2015/07/24, 21:28 - Dele: @Mike, just take ice cream to cool your mind
2015/07/24, 21:28 - Viazi: 😀😀😀😀
2015/07/24, 21:28 - Adehun: Lol
2015/07/24, 21:28 - Viazi: Mike can even employ that woman ohh
2015/07/24, 21:29 - Lomomike: 😀 @ Dele, na ice cream u wan give me so I go purge?
2015/07/24, 21:30 - Pafestula: Get set class...
2015/07/24, 21:30 - Dele: Okay take ice water
2015/07/24, 21:30 - Lomomike: But really its bad the way we lay emphasis on paper qualification
2015/07/24, 21:30 - Dele: BTW, ice cream no go make you purge
2015/07/24, 21:31 - Lomomike: See as HND holders are suffering on sites, in factories in workshops
2015/07/24, 21:31 - Lomomike: These guys with HND knows the practical but only few uni graduate engineers can match them
2015/07/24, 21:31 - Lomomike: Lol
2015/07/24, 21:32 - Lomomike: E pain me cos na my country e dey spoil
2015/07/24, 21:32 - Adehun: Oga mike no vex,
2015/07/24, 21:32 - Dele: That HND - B.Eng thing dey among the thing wey dey, go kill Naija
2015/07/24, 21:32 - Adehun: Take origin instead
2015/07/24, 21:33 - SMARTCHOICE: Mike don't start Eng 285 here... Engineers in the Society!
2015/07/24, 21:33 - Pafestula: Helloooooo
2015/07/24, 21:33 - Lomomike: @ smart 😀
2015/07/24, 21:33 - Lomomike: Hi prof.
2015/07/24, 21:34 - SMARTCHOICE: Zadoc whatever you're typing...
2015/07/24, 21:34 - SMARTCHOICE: 🔨🔨
2015/07/24, 21:34 - Pafestula: Lol
2015/07/24, 21:34 - Oyibo: @aikerism,pls do u ve anybody at Abuja motor licensing office
2015/07/24, 21:34 - Oyibo: I need a fancy nuba
2015/07/24, 21:35 - SMARTCHOICE: Now am deleting posts
2015/07/24, 21:35 - SMARTCHOICE: Soon na the posters
2015/07/24, 21:35 - Pafestula: We stopped at No. What yesterday
2015/07/24, 21:35 - Pafestula: Hellooo
2015/07/24, 21:36 - SMARTCHOICE: Zadoc what have you been typing for over ten minutes?
2015/07/24, 21:36 - +234 803 491 1766: Festo
2015/07/24, 21:36 - Dele: 📖📖📖📖📖📖📖
2015/07/24, 21:36 - +234 803 491 1766: I greet u
2015/07/24, 21:37 - Dele: 📋📜📋📜📋📜📋
2015/07/24, 21:37 - Pafestula: Continuation of fact about Benz
2015/07/24, 21:37 - SMARTCHOICE: Dele spamming
2015/07/24, 21:37 - Dele: Oya, I am.sharing class notes
2015/07/24, 21:37 - Pafestula: Then we move to next topic quick
2015/07/24, 21:37 - Oyibo: pls house I need help to get a fancy nuba in fct
2015/07/24, 21:38 - Dele: Oga smart, I sharing class notes ni
2015/07/24, 21:38 - SMARTCHOICE: Zadoc!
2015/07/24, 21:38 - +234 803 491 1766: Abeg festo mk i wnt 2 mk an inquiry
2015/07/24, 21:38 - Pafestula: I already gave out 30 interesting and amazing facts about our Mercedes Benz
2015/07/24, 21:39 - +234 803 491 1766: Oga dele u neva give mi o!
2015/07/24, 21:39 - Dele: Oga smart talk say make I stop ni
2015/07/24, 21:39 - Zadoc: @Oga smart,A class AMG get 355hp n 450Nm of torque? Chaiiii,e be like dem Oga Pafesto's ride great den!
2015/07/24, 21:39 - SMARTCHOICE: Is that all?
2015/07/24, 21:40 - Dele: 📗 oya Ejiz, collect volume 2
2015/07/24, 21:40 - Pafestula: 31. The optional Daimler-Benz .automatic transmission has four forward speeds. You can operate it like a manual shift, or as an automatic. Using the hydraulic coupling principle instead of common torque converters, this transmission cuts
slippage to almost nil. Fuel economy is virtually equal to
manual gearboxes.
2015/07/24, 21:40 - You removed Dele
2015/07/24, 21:41 - Zadoc: Service dey tire me 4 here,epileptic!!!
2015/07/24, 21:41 - +234 803 491 1766: Same wit ma end o!
2015/07/24, 21:41 - You added Dele
2015/07/24, 21:41 - Pafestula: 32. The Mercedes-Benz power steering uses a servo-booster that adds steering assistance progressively, as more and more effort is needed. You never lose touch with the front wheels. There is none of the freakish lightness and loss' of road 'feel' for which
power-assisted steering is often derided.
2015/07/24, 21:43 - Pafestula: 33. The timeless body styling of all Mercedes-Benz models requires no annual changes. To Mercedes-Benz owners this means no unpleasant surprise every year at 'new car time'.
2015/07/24, 21:43 - Pafestula: Let's end the fact about Benz and roll to next level, we are advancing gradually
2015/07/24, 21:43 - Zadoc: Wat does ds OEM stand for?
2015/07/24, 21:44 - Zadoc: Point 33 well noted!
2015/07/24, 21:45 - Zadoc: Unlike dem Honda wey fit comot too many models in a single yr!
2015/07/24, 21:45 - Pafestula: And let me use the medium to inform the forum, at a point we are going to digress to little physics.
2015/07/24, 21:46 - Zadoc: Only 4 one benz model to comot n scatter all dos berekete Honda models!
2015/07/24, 21:46 - Dele: Physics ke!
2015/07/24, 21:46 - Zadoc: Chai,Benz na d real deal prof!!!
2015/07/24, 21:47 - Pafestula: So let the house choose from our course content, so I can lecture on that, and pls let us make this lecture and interwoven kind, I don't just want to be a speaker, but let us be following and be contributing. Thanks
2015/07/24, 21:47 - You removed Zadoc
2015/07/24, 21:47 - Dele: Whatever tech you see in Benz is like 7 years ahead of others (IMHO)
2015/07/24, 21:48 - You added Zadoc
2015/07/24, 21:48 - Pafestula: Yes physics... Archimedes principles, ohms law, Boyles law, Charles law, Daniel Faraday's law
2015/07/24, 21:49 - Zadoc: K,let d physics no go too deep Sir!
2015/07/24, 21:49 - Danadam: Dele... you're calling me out?
2015/07/24, 21:49 - Pafestula: So house pick a topic. Thanks
2015/07/24, 21:50 - Lomomike: Sorry Pafestula, a correction there. Its not Daniel Faraday, its Michael Faraday
2015/07/24, 21:50 - Zadoc: @Sir Pafesto,let's take d Benz "ENGINE"!
2015/07/24, 21:50 - Dele: Been a while I heard from you.
2015/07/24, 21:50 - Zadoc: Yep,@Dele is correct!
2015/07/24, 21:51 - Pafestula: Or anyone can choose any area you want me to lecture about Mercedes Benz.
1.Aerodynamic
2. Air condition
3. Air cool engine
4. Alloy wheel
5. Anti roll bar
6. Automatic transmission
7. Battery
8. Body shell
9. Borg- warner overdrive
10. Brakes
11. Cooling fan
12. Crank case and fly wheel
13. Cylinder head
14. Double clutch shift
15. Electrical system
16. Engine
17. Exhaust
18. Ferguson four wheel drive
19. Fuel gauge
20. Fuel injection
21. Gear liver
22. Handling
23. Hemi-Head engine
24. Hydragas suspension
25. Hydrolastic suspension
26. Hydropnumatic suspension
27. Laycock over drive
28. The oil filter
29. The oil pressure gauge
30. Oil lubrication
31. Oil pump
32. Overdrive
33. Panel beating
34. Piston
35. Pollution
36. Prototype
37. Radiator
38. Spark plugs
39. Speedo
40. Spring
41. Stater motor
42. Steam engine
43. Steamlining
44. Steering
45. Suppressor
46. Synchromesh
47. Tachometer
48. Tappets
49. Temperature gauge
50. Tyres
51. Torsin bar suspension
52. Transmission
53. Tubor & supercharge
54. Valves
55. Variomatic transmission
56. Water cooling system
57. Wheel alignment
2015/07/24, 21:51 - Zadoc: Sorry i mean Mike is Correct!
2015/07/24, 21:51 - Dele: Although, I have been quite busy with exams, but I feel you've been ghosting
2015/07/24, 21:52 - Zadoc: It's Michael Faraday!
2015/07/24, 21:52 - Lomomike: Hydropneumatic suspensions
2015/07/24, 21:52 - Lomomike: Let's discuss thatt
2015/07/24, 21:52 - Zadoc: No. 16 it is.
2015/07/24, 21:52 - Lomomike: 26
2015/07/24, 21:52 - Dele: Festo, it's a crime to call Daniel Faraday
2015/07/24, 21:53 - Danadam: K... sowie. Been a bit busy at work
2015/07/24, 21:53 - Dele: No problem
2015/07/24, 21:54 - Jonaboy: Hello house, sorry my phone battery went flat when I was trying to send the pictures of the CLA I posted about this afternoo. This are the pictures, the engine is quite different from the regular Benz engine I know.
2015/07/24, 21:54 - Zadoc: Wat makes d Benz engine unique?
2015/07/24, 21:54 - Zadoc: Well,bt dt hydropnem thingy,no b all cars get am abi?
2015/07/24, 21:54 - Zadoc: Dem W202 get dat for e.g?
2015/07/24, 21:54 - Zadoc: Dont know though,just asking!
2015/07/24, 21:55 - Pafestula: Thanks for your observation@ Mike
2015/07/24, 21:56 - Pafestula: No. 26..
2015/07/24, 21:56 - Zadoc: Prof,we are waiting!!!
2015/07/24, 21:56 - Jonaboy: The pictures are coming you would see it.
2015/07/24, 21:56 - Pafestula: Get read class
2015/07/24, 21:57 - Pafestula: Get ready..
2015/07/24, 21:57 - Dele: ...
2015/07/24, 21:58 - Jonaboy: My network is slow over here it is taking long to upload the pictures be patient with me please.
2015/07/24, 21:58 - Jonaboy: IMG-20150725-WA0011.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/24, 22:00 - Pafestula: Sorry house, I'm actually trying to get the diagram to buttress the topic, for better understanding
2015/07/24, 22:01 - Pafestula: Hydropneumatic Suspension Systems
The major manufacturer that developed and put into
production the hydropneumatic suspension system was Citroen .
Maintenance of this system requires removing both the engine
and the gearbox followed by removal of the front axle.
2015/07/24, 22:01 - Pafestula: Wait for the diagram
2015/07/24, 22:02 - Lomomike: Can I take it from here @ pafestula?
2015/07/24, 22:03 - Pafestula: IMG-20150725-WA0010.jpg (file attached)
Study the above diagram
2015/07/24, 22:04 - Lomomike: I await your permission
2015/07/24, 22:04 - Pafestula: Pls do, cos what I have here is citron related issue
2015/07/24, 22:05 - Pafestula: My Benz script here didn't elucidate much on this topic to my satisfaction
2015/07/24, 22:05 - Jonaboy: IMG-20150725-WA0009.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/24, 22:05 - Zadoc: Pls wen speaking of spare parts esp. D original ones,OEM is usually being mentioned. What does dt OEM stand for?
2015/07/24, 22:06 - Pafestula: Unless am permitted to digress to Peugeot (Citron)
2015/07/24, 22:06 - Lomomike: Hydropneumatic suspensions are suspensions developed my Citroen a French Car manufacturer (now associated with Peugeot psa)
2015/07/24, 22:07 - Lomomike: Its first application was in the famous Citroen DS
2015/07/24, 22:07 - Danadam: OEM.... ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER
2015/07/24, 22:08 - Zadoc: K,tnx Adam.
2015/07/24, 22:08 - +234 705 333 1484: IMG-20150725-WA0008.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/24, 22:09 - Zadoc: Hmmmm,nice 1 @ AceRoyal.
2015/07/24, 22:10 - Pafestula: Mike are u there?
2015/07/24, 22:10 - Pafestula: Where is smart and Dele
2015/07/24, 22:12 - Lomomike: A series of pipes are connected to the said suspension set up to a central servo unit which could either pump more air, fluid or take out the air or fluid
2015/07/24, 22:12 - Lomomike: With this, the driver could drop the height of the car or raise up the suspensions just as Airmatic does
2015/07/24, 22:12 - Lomomike: This systems also allow the car to kneel on its belly when the car is turned off.
2015/07/24, 22:14 - Lomomike: It consists of a ball chamber fill with gas and the oil/liquid is also put into it then sealed.
2015/07/24, 22:14 - Lomomike: Yes bro
2015/07/24, 22:14 - Lomomike: Network
2015/07/24, 22:14 - Lomomike: Network is silly
2015/07/24, 22:14 - Zadoc: "Knee on its belly",does dat mean d bottom of d car rests on d ground weneva engine is turned off?
2015/07/24, 22:15 - Zadoc: Tnk God! Thot i was d only 1 wt yeye netwk service!
2015/07/24, 22:15 - Pafestula: Mike let me also help about the Citroen,
A lull in Citroen fortunes followed the 2CV'S introduction.
Nothing new appeared until the Paris show of 1954, when a
425 cc 2CV, in AZ saloon and AZU light-van versions, with a
centrifugal clutch now fitted as standard, was introduced.
During those six years
2015/07/24, 22:15 - Lomomike: IMG-20150725-WA0007.jpg (file attached)
A unit of hydropneumatic suspension note the ball head, the pipe connections and the rings down the length of the plunger
2015/07/24, 22:15 - SMARTCHOICE: Citroen?! No way
2015/07/24, 22:16 - Lomomike: Depending on the settings, the car can be made to drop its height
2015/07/24, 22:17 - Lomomike: @ Smart, Its a suspension system which was made by citroen which is now advanced into air suspension
2015/07/24, 22:17 - Lomomike: We aren't talking about a Citroen car
2015/07/24, 22:18 - Lomomike: Its also listed in the brochure
2015/07/24, 22:18 - Pafestula: Sure @ Mike
2015/07/24, 22:19 - Zadoc: @Mike,Overtime,wudnt d car develop issues e.g burst or leaking fuel lines etc wt constant scrubbing of d ground?
2015/07/24, 22:19 - Pafestula: I also have Citroen in my brochure here too, and Benz manufactured it
2015/07/24, 22:20 - Pafestula: We aren't talking about a Citroen/Peugeot car
2015/07/24, 22:20 - Lomomike: I discovered no matter who make what when where and how, over time its improved and gets adopted by all car manufacturers
2015/07/24, 22:22 - Lomomike: For instance, cornering lights, active headlamps, automatic headlamp focus systems (AFS) was still introduced by Citroen DS as a mechanical device but now even a small car use it
2015/07/24, 22:23 - Lomomike: Jst as Airbag and ABS was introduced by benz but now its every motorvehicle standard secondary safety equipment
2015/07/24, 22:23 - Pafestula: Mike, your diagram is different from mine
2015/07/24, 22:24 - Lomomike: No @ Zadoc, it doesn't get to scrub the ground when running
2015/07/24, 22:24 - Zadoc: Sir Mike,i dont mean wen running.
2015/07/24, 22:25 - Zadoc: U said d car practically "kneels on it's belly" when d engine is switched off! Datz wat am referring to.
2015/07/24, 22:26 - Zadoc: Wudnt rust get facilitated?
2015/07/24, 22:26 - Pafestula: Yes.. It won't touch the ground
2015/07/24, 22:27 - Zadoc: K,beta.
2015/07/24, 22:27 - Lomomike: If you notice your diagram, the ball is showing but the ball is cutaway, you picture diagram shows the whole axle and suspension as a whole unit
2015/07/24, 22:27 - Pafestula: Ok
2015/07/24, 22:28 - Pafestula: Yes
2015/07/24, 22:28 - Pafestula: U are right
2015/07/24, 22:28 - Pafestula: I think the range rovers are using this system when packed for long@ Mike
2015/07/24, 22:29 - Lomomike: Yea, you can continue the lecture @ pafestula
2015/07/24, 22:29 - Lomomike: I'm enjoying your class
2015/07/24, 22:31 - Zadoc: Apart from these peculiarities,how do they differ wt d suspension system in d basic cars e.g d W202's suspension (in terms of d feel u get wen running over rough terrain like our bad roads)?
2015/07/24, 22:33 - Pafestula: That's all about the suspension... Benz directed it to Citroen, and we can't talk about that here cos of 🔨
2015/07/24, 22:34 - Pafestula: Unless we pick another topic
2015/07/24, 22:34 - Zadoc: Or is it d same wt wat is in d W202
2015/07/24, 22:35 - Zadoc: 16 - Engine!
2015/07/24, 22:35 - Pafestula: W202 doesn't have it..
2015/07/24, 22:35 - Pafestula: But S600 do
2015/07/24, 22:36 - Zadoc: I see!
2015/07/24, 22:36 - Pafestula: S600 is using it this suspension rather
2015/07/24, 22:42 - Pafestula: Zodac
2015/07/24, 22:42 - Pafestula: U need a lecture about engine
2015/07/24, 22:43 - Pafestula: Let me treat that to subtitle the suspension topic
2015/07/24, 22:47 - Pafestula: The internal
combustion
engine is a
direct
descendant
of the
reciprocating
steam
engine. Otto
and other
pioneers
adapted
many ideas
from the
steam
engines of
their time.
This created
internal
combustion
problems
right from
the start,
because the
old reciprocating steam engine was essentially a low-speed
device, while the internal combustion engine needs speed to get
its power. But you shouldn’t sell these early pioneers short,
though, because many ideas we consider up-to-date were first
developed in the very early days of combustion engines .
2015/07/24, 22:48 - Pafestula: Overhead valves and hemispherical chambers are two such
examples. The earlier developers were limited by materials and
machine tools, so they made compromises. These factors caused
a slow evolutionary development over a period of many, many
years. Things started to change rapidly in the 1960s because
the pace of development and change in combustion chamber
design had been going on at a furious rate – particularly given
the emphasis on performance, coupled with tough competition
in the auto industry.
2015/07/24, 22:49 - Pafestula: 🔝 short history was copied above.
2015/07/24, 22:49 - Pafestula: Now the major aspect
2015/07/24, 22:51 - Pafestula: Residence Time of the End Gas
A quick review of combustion theory will help you visualize the
various chamber layouts. Combustion occurs in four phases: the
pre-flame reaction, the cool flame front, the blue flame front,
and finally the undesirable auto-ignition. Auto-ignition is
what causes detonation and induces pre-ignition - and these
are the engine busters. Since it's the last part of the burning
charge that's likely to detonate, you can see how important it
is to get the charge burned quickly (before auto-ignition of the
end gas - or last part of the unburned charge - has time to take
place).
In other words, the longer the last part of the charge remains
unburned in the cylinder, the more likely you are to get auto-
ignition. Engineers call the time the last part of the charge
stays in the cylinder the "residence time of the end gas." And
this is fundamental to chamber design. Burning a charge too
rapidly can also be a problem, because this makes for engine
roughness. So the trick is to get smooth, even combustion and
still get the blue flame front to move across the chamber before
the end gas can auto-ignite.
2015/07/24, 22:52 - Pafestula: The T-Head
Burning time isn't the only consideration; compression ratio,
rpm, charge temperature, turbulence, type of petrol used, and
fuel/air ratio all have an important influence on engine
combustion. Dependability of the early engines was a big
problem. It limited the widespread acceptance of automobiles.
So it's natural enough that reliability and accessibility became
overriding factors in all phases of early automotive design.
This, along with low cost, dictated the T-head configuration.
This head gave low performance, poor volumetric efficiency, and
had poor knock characteristics. But it was reliable, because it
was accessible and rugged. Almost no consideration was given
correct spark plug location, because no one really knew where
the best plug locations were. Knocking was an accepted fact in
those days, but then you always had the spark lever to remedy
the situation.
2015/07/24, 22:54 - Pafestula: The L-Head and F-Head
As more cars were sold, more money became available for
research and development. We began to see a great variety of
designs in general use. For example, L-head and F-head came
into wide commercial acceptance, while overhead and
hemispherical layouts started turning up more often, especially
in racing circles. Incidentally, one of Otto's early engines had a
hemispherical chamber, but it was too expensive and hard to
make. Much of the credit for the modern developments we have
today should go to the metallurgical engineers. Right through
until the early 1960s all the engine designers did was dust off
the old designs and build them with modern materials and
machine tools. The superior performance of overhead-valve
layouts and hemispherical chambers was attributed entirely to
better breathing and not to better combustion. Also, since
compression ratios were low, auto-ignition, although often
present, was no serious problem. As engineers tried to raise
compression ratios to gain efficiency and specific performance,
auto-ignition became acute.
2015/07/24, 23:00 - Zadoc: Does it not have any diagrammatic illustration,4 beta understanding?
2015/07/24, 23:00 - Pafestula: Increase Turbulence
Rule #1 - Increase turbulence in the burning charges. Turbulence
increases the flame speed in a charge and greatly aids in
completing the burning process before the end gas can auto-
ignite. Ricardo implemented this theory by introducing a
squish area (see Figure 6). As the piston reaches tdc, very little
clearance (less than 1/16-inch) is left between the head and
piston. This causes the gases originally occupying this area to
be "squished" out. The squished gases are sent into the main
chamber area with great velocity. This results in mixing and
turbulence and greatly reduces residence time and the tendency
toward auto-ignition. Pistons can also be modified to add to
the turbulence. If either of these two methods (squish area or
contoured pistons) is used to put turbulence in the charge, it's
called "compression turbulence."
This type of turbulence has several distinct advantages: First, by
blanking off some of the effective piston area, the rest of the
cylinder becomes very compact. Second, there's no drop in
volumetric efficiency, because all the turbulence starts after a
full charge has been taken into the cylinder. Turbulence can
also be induced by careful layout or "biasing" inlet ports, inlet
valves, or inlet manifolds. This is known as "induced
turbulence" and is quite common in ohv engines. Examples of
induced turbulence would be machined sleeves in the intake
ports or cast protrusions in the head. Induced turbulence causes
some drop in volumetric efficiency, especially at high rpm,
because this approach involves some restriction to flow and also
disturbs smooth flow. Don't make the mistake of thinking that
turbulence in a combustion chamber is a panacea - it can
make for too rapid combustion, and that results in engine
roughness. The pressure rise rate limit for smooth combustion is
normally less than 30 psi per degree of crank travel. Anything
above this value tends to lead to surface ignition, rumble, or
roughness.
Small Combustion Chambers and Spark Plug Location
Rule #2 - Make combustion chambers as compact as feasible.
This, of course, results in shorter flame travel and gets
combustion over in a hurry. In other words, burn the charge
quickly before it gets a chance to auto-ignite. A secondary
benefit is that less heat's lost to the cooling jacket. Rule #3 - Put
the spark plug near the hottest part of the combustion
chamber. The hottest point in a chamber is the exhaust valve.
Since the charge in this area is very susceptible to auto-ignition,
burn it first so it doesn't have time to auto-ignite. Rule #4 -
Locate the spark plug as near the center of chamber as possible.
This trick would tend to cut in half the distance a flame front
would have to travel, thereby cutting burning time in half and
not giving auto-ignition time to take place in the end gas. The
squish technique had another advantage. Since the small
volume of gas trapped in the squish area was exposed to a
large surface area of the engine, the tendency was to keep this
end gas cool enough to avoid auto-ignition.
Overhead Valves and Wedge Chambers
It wasn’t all that long until the auto industry passed the L-
head, F-head era and moved into overhead valves. The idea is
to make the overhead valves as large as possible to increase
volumetric efficiency, but you reach a size limit if all valves are
in the same plane. This is one disadvantage of wedge
chambers that's not shared by hemispherical chambers.
Hemispherical chambers are superior to other chamber layouts,
because they adhere more closely to Ricardo's principles. But the
high cost and valve complexity of hemispherical layouts severely
limit their wide acceptance. In general, the industry turned to
a chamber layout that kept many of the advantages of the
hemispherical layout, yet at a greatly reduced cost. This
compromise layout was the wedge chamber.
Wedge chambers are often designed to have both "induced" and
"compression" turbulence. They're also very compact and, in
general, easy to manufacture. Although there are various
possible spark plug locations in a wedge chamber, it's the
general consensus that putting the plugs at or near the corner
of the wedge gives the smoothest combustion. Combustion in a
wedge chamber starts slowly, burns quickly during the middle
phase, and slows down at the end of the burning cycle. In
other words, wedge chambers don't shock-load the piston with
burning gases.
Hemispherical Chambers
Ask any Valiant aficionado and he will gladly explain that
hemispherical chambers have the best anti-knock characteristics
and best volumetric efficiency, can rev to high rpm (due to light
valve gear), but are expensive to build, and the valve gear is
hard to maintain. Wedge chambers show extremely smooth
combustion, have good turbulence and good volumetric
efficiency. They're relatively inexpensive to manufacture,
lightweight, compact, easy to maintain, and allow cooling
system capacity to be reduced. Building a combustion chamber
so it has excellent anti-knock characteristics is called "giving an
engine mechanical octanes." In other words, through careful
adherence to design features, a combustion chamber can be
built that's extremely knock-resistant.
This provided the engine designer with two choices. They could
run a good chamber design on a lower-octane fuel or could
raise the compression ratio provided there was a good design
and still run on a fuel that would normally be unacceptable
with a poor design. Below is a list of rules formulated on
combustion research since Ricardo's time.
a) Design the combustion chamber (including the location of
the spark plug) so that high compression ratios can be used
without increasing the octane requirements of the fuel
(mechanical octanes). In other worlds, rapid and complete
combustion are musts.
b) Good volumetric efficiency means maximum air consumption
in modern engine designs. In addition to combustion chamber
design, valve timing, valve size, streamlined intakes and
exhausts, low pressure losses through carburetor Venturis, tuned
intakes and exhausts — all these have important effects on
volumetric efficiency. In regard to combustion chamber design,
we can increase volumetric efficiency by minimizing the contact
between the incoming charge and hot spot in the chamber.
Overheating the incoming charge expands the charge and
thereby reduces the amount of charge that can be taken in.
Engine deposits can also hurt volumetric efficiency. Still,
evaporation of the fuel can help volumetric efficiency, because
evaporating the fuel causes the temperature of the entire charge
to drop. For example, if you use alcohol, it'll drop the
temperature of the inducted charge four times as much as
gasoline.
c) Keep the ratio of surface-to-volume of a combustion chamber
small to minimize heat losses, increase thermal efficiency, and
minimize "deposit depreciation" losses. "Deposit depreciation"
loss might be new to you, so let's explain it a little further. Let's
say we build a combustion chamber and test it thoroughly to
see how it performs. In the tests, let's say the engine needs 90-
octane gasoline to stay out of detonation. So far, so good.
d) Keep combustion-pressure rise rates as low as feasible to
avoid shock-loading the pistons and avoid engine roughness.
Normal limits are under 30 psi per crank degree and preferably
between 20-25 psi per degree.
e) Eliminate all sharp edges and burrs from chambers (and
plugs) that run at high compression ratios, because they tend
to get very hot and can cause pre-ignition. Also avoid having
gaskets protrude into cylinders.
f) Keep cylinder capacity of each cylinder in a multiple-cylinder
engine as nearly equal in volume as possible.
g) Turbulence, both induced and compression, has been
already covered. Suffice it to say this is being perfected.
h) Chamber design must not have pockets for burned, stagnant
gases to collect in. This would result in rough idling and lower
power outputs.
i) Last but probably most important, a combustion chamber
design has to be as easy to manufacture as possible.
But engineers also faced another problem. After about 15,000
miles of the combustion chambers tended to have a layer of
carbon and other deposits on them. These deposits did two
things to a combustion chamber. First, they took up space so
they increased the compression ratio. Second, they sometimes
got red hot and caused pre-ignition. So now the engine would
knock on 90-octane petrol, forcing the owner to switch to a
higher octane fuel. This was known as deposit depreciation loss.
It could be significant (5-10 octane numbers), so engineers
normally designed with this in mind.
If you want to make a study of combustion chambers and how
they change and evolve, Chrysler makes a good subject. They
pioneered in mass-produced hemisphericals in 1951. Its
reliability, durability, specific performance, and ability to
withstand extreme performance modifications are well known,
so it's no use to belabor this point. But cost was always a
problem, so Chrysler tried various modifications of this
chamber. One was the Super Red Ram V8. introduced in 1955 .
This engine featured what Chrysler called the Poly-spherical
Combustion Chamber.
The hemisphericals were then dropped for wedges, such as the
1965 225-cubic-inch Six. But performance sold cars and created
images highly desirable to any company wanting to increase
market penetration. So you guessed it - back came the
hemisphericals for the big 426-inch maximum-performance
engines in 1965 . This time Chrysler's pistons were highly domed
to bring the compression ratio up as high as possible and put
their cars as far out in front in the racing events as possible.
Engines like this had combustion chambers that had a strong
resemblance to all-out racing engines.
Internal Combusion Engine Definitions:
Compression turbulence — agitation and mixing of the
combustible charge in a reciprocating engine during the
compression stroke. Squish areas, domed pistons, or baffled
pistons can be used to create this type of turbulence.
Deposit depreciation loss — new engines are carefully tested
at the factory for octane requirements. As the engines are used,
they build up deposits that can raise the compression ratio and
cause undesirable effects in engine combustion. This could mean
that the engine needs a higher-octane gasoline to run
satisfactorily. The increased octane need is called "deposit
depreciation loss."
End gas — the last portion of a combustible charge in a
cylinder to be burned. Auto-ignition always originates in the
end gas, because it's exposed to the highest temperatures and
pressures for the longest time.
Induced turbulence — turbulence imparted to the incoming
fuel/air mixture by angling the intakes, casting protrusions
into the intake manifold, or by masking valves ... a very
common method of getting charge turbulence in modern
engines.
Mechanical octanes — an expression used to describe a
combustion chamber whose combustion characteristics are so
good that lower-octane gas can be used. In other words,
actually building knock resistance into the combustion
chamber.
Residence time of the end gas —the time from charge
ignition (spark across the gap) until all the combustible charge
is burned by the flame front. If the residence time is too long,
auto-ignition results; if too short, rough combustion results.
Squish area — the space between the cylinder head and
piston at its closest point (usually less than 1/16-inch). Gas
caught in the squish area is rapidly forced out across the
combustion chamber, creating turbulence and cutting down
burning time.
2015/07/24, 23:00 - Pafestula: I have, but to copy them from laptop to iPad is taking my time.
2015/07/24, 23:01 - Pafestula: That's why I wanna make a book on this, with diagram
2015/07/24, 23:01 - Zadoc: K,dt wud b great Sir.
2015/07/24, 23:01 - Zadoc: More grease 2 ya elbow!
2015/07/24, 23:03 - Pafestula: Every single thing we see and use in Benz takes a very long theory to arrived at it
2015/07/24, 23:04 - Pafestula: Any topic like this in my brochure, na plenty story go full inside, we in Africa, na to carry cooperative money buy motor abi drive, we don't care to know how the arrived at what we are buying and driving
2015/07/24, 23:05 - Pafestula: Buy motor and drive
2015/07/24, 23:05 - Pafestula: * How they arrived at what ,,,,
2015/07/24, 23:22 - Zadoc: Sweet stuff thou highly technical!
2015/07/24, 23:25 - Zadoc: Atleast it sheds light also on d relative safety per se we have,using our low octane gas in doz engines,coz of d "mechanical octane"-how they greatly enhanced d engines combustion chambers so efficiently dat it's relatively okay using our low octane fuel wt less deleterious consequences!
2015/07/24, 23:26 - Zadoc: Tnx Prof 4 ds enlighten'n post.G9t
2015/07/25, 00:01 - Jonaboy: IMG-20150725-WA0019.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 00:01 - Zadoc: If only dey made doz W202s wt folding mirrors!
2015/07/25, 00:01 - Zadoc: Our rekless Napep n lorry drivers!!!
2015/07/25, 00:02 - Zadoc: Hmmm,only God can deliver us!
2015/07/25, 00:02 - Jonaboy: IMG-20150725-WA0004.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 00:05 - Lomomike: Goodnight all
2015/07/25, 00:05 - Lomomike: Prof Festus thanks
2015/07/25, 00:07 - Jonaboy: IMG-20150725-WA0003.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 00:11 - Jonaboy: From the engine pictures you can see that it looks more like Honda engine than that of Benz.
2015/07/25, 00:13 - Jonaboy: IMG-20150725-WA0002.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 00:14 - Jonaboy: IMG-20150725-WA0001.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 00:16 - Jonaboy: IMG-20150725-WA0000.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 06:42 - +234 803 461 4675: Hian!
2015/07/25, 06:43 - +234 803 461 4675: Morning to the Benz house
2015/07/25, 07:00 - SMARTCHOICE: Festo great one👍
2015/07/25, 07:00 - SMARTCHOICE: Morning all
2015/07/25, 06:44 - Pafestula: Ainn! ain!! ain!!!!! I'm in with my small doctor's voice... >======>
2015/07/25, 06:45 - +234 803 461 4675: 🏃
2015/07/25, 06:47 - Pafestula: Come back here
2015/07/25, 06:48 - Pafestula: Today na talk free day.. So thou shall fear no hammer
2015/07/25, 06:48 - Pafestula: Greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the hammer..
2015/07/25, 06:57 - +234 803 461 4675: Are u sure today is free?
2015/07/25, 06:57 - +234 803 461 4675: As a co-moderator of this platform, should I not have been informed?
2015/07/25, 06:57 - Pafestula: Saturday and public holidays
2015/07/25, 06:58 - Pafestula: It was publicly declared here during the new forum rules inauguration
2015/07/25, 06:59 - +234 803 461 4675: Ha! We now have new rules?
2015/07/25, 07:00 - +234 803 461 4675: I did not know
2015/07/25, 07:00 - +234 803 461 4675: Well, I will love to dump Benz for BMW
2015/07/25, 07:01 - Pafestula: Why
2015/07/25, 07:01 - Pafestula: Reasons
2015/07/25, 07:01 - Pafestula: Morning Oga smart
2015/07/25, 07:02 - Pafestula: Abiola state your reason and let me speak from my little experience..
2015/07/25, 07:04 - Austyn44: Morning house
2015/07/25, 07:04 - Yunusa: Good morning house
2015/07/25, 07:08 - Sope: Good morning my brothers
2015/07/25, 07:19 - +234 803 391 8271: Morning All
2015/07/25, 07:19 - +234 803 391 8271: Festo nice one
2015/07/25, 07:19 - Sope: IMG-20150725-WA0013.jpg (file attached)
Throw Back: Abiola Kompressor
2015/07/25, 07:20 - SMARTCHOICE: That was Abiola
2015/07/25, 07:20 - SMARTCHOICE: Emphasis on WAS
2015/07/25, 07:21 - Sope: Yes Boss. Abiola in the month of February 2015
2015/07/25, 07:23 - SMARTCHOICE: Seems no one has ever met festo
2015/07/25, 07:23 - Pafestula: House.. Am going offline for now, I will be back after some days. Catch you later
2015/07/25, 07:23 - You removed Ziccoit
2015/07/25, 08:01 - Sope: IMG-20150725-WA0018.jpg (file attached)
Throw Back; Patrick & ....
2015/07/25, 08:04 - Adehun: Shoppyanno, where u go hide ur face
2015/07/25, 08:05 - Adehun: Mornin bosses
2015/07/25, 08:05 - Sope: I kuku dey ado
2015/07/25, 08:05 - Brightcom: Greetings to d big ogas
2015/07/25, 08:06 - Brightcom: My personal shoppy
2015/07/25, 08:06 - Sope: Big boss @ Cashmoney
2015/07/25, 08:06 - Brightcom: I salute u bro
2015/07/25, 08:08 - Sope: I'm loyal sir
2015/07/25, 08:08 - Brightcom: I loyal pass ooo
2015/07/25, 08:18 - Jonaboy: Good morning house.
2015/07/25, 08:33 - SMARTCHOICE: http://www.nairaland.com/2475755/okada-riders-head-bursts-open
2015/07/25, 08:34 - Brightcom: I saw dt dis morning, i couldn't talk
2015/07/25, 08:34 - SMARTCHOICE: As you go to apapa please be careful
2015/07/25, 08:40 - SMARTCHOICE: Y @cashmoney
2015/07/25, 08:40 - Brightcom: So graphic
2015/07/25, 08:40 - Brightcom: E still dey touch me now
2015/07/25, 08:42 - SMARTCHOICE: Hausa proverb: if a matter becomes too serious for one's life....turn it into a joke so you can at least enjoy your life!
2015/07/25, 08:43 - Brightcom: Okay bro
2015/07/25, 08:44 - +234 803 491 1766: Mornin house
2015/07/25, 08:44 - Brightcom: Mwain Ejiz
2015/07/25, 08:45 - +234 803 491 1766: CMB i greet u boss
2015/07/25, 08:45 - +234 803 491 1766: Prof festo b4 u go 1 ? Pls
2015/07/25, 08:46 - Brightcom: Greet u too
2015/07/25, 08:46 - +234 803 491 1766: Does d 2007 c230 hv 4 plug version. N iz it true dt it has EIS factory defect issues
2015/07/25, 08:50 - Adehun: @ cash money my boss, I sight you @ shoppyanno my personal person. Live in kwara state hopin to be back tomoro
2015/07/25, 08:50 - Sope: I know of the W204 from 2008 - 2011 with EIS issues. That's why its advisable to go with the 2012 W204
2015/07/25, 08:50 - SMARTCHOICE: Abiola laree
2015/07/25, 08:51 - +234 803 491 1766: @ surep. Buh i've heard of 2007 versions hvin dt problem
2015/07/25, 08:52 - +234 803 491 1766: Master smartchoice i greet u in bruce lee voice
2015/07/25, 08:52 - Sope: I don't know much abt the W203 2007 model
2015/07/25, 08:53 - +234 803 491 1766: Kk
2015/07/25, 08:53 - +234 803 491 1766: Buh any knw issues wif that model
2015/07/25, 08:55 - Sope: Bigmeat is the best person to enlighten us on the W203
2015/07/25, 08:58 - SMARTCHOICE: I respond in the tone of a cluster bomb
2015/07/25, 08:59 - Brightcom: Sola am loyal
2015/07/25, 08:59 - SMARTCHOICE: My area w210 202 124 for now
2015/07/25, 09:01 - Adehun: @ Oga smart bomb ke? I did dat reset, it worked and my mpg OT ilorin is wonderful,
2015/07/25, 09:02 - Adehun: Even with the big tyres I still consumed less fuel,
2015/07/25, 09:03 - Adehun: Now I I am goin to change my wheels to 17" chrome alloy , if an ordinary A class could use a 16 " rim, why not the almighty C class and C280 for that matter o !!!!
2015/07/25, 09:04 - +234 803 491 1766: Gbam!!!!
2015/07/25, 09:05 - +234 803 491 1766: Mr Bigmeat were u dey o!!!!!🏃
2015/07/25, 09:27 - Yunusa: 🏃
2015/07/25, 10:24 - Shope Nnpc: Hey, I am inviting you to activate WhatsApp Without Internet.This is amazing service. Now you can run whatsapp without internet. Click here to activate --> http://WhatsappNoData.com
2015/07/25, 10:26 - Dele: Please you guys stop posting all this nonsense here biko.
2015/07/25, 10:26 - Dele: @Dotman
2015/07/25, 10:27 - Shope Nnpc: Calm down bro.
2015/07/25, 10:27 - Shope Nnpc: It was a mistake
2015/07/25, 10:28 - Dele: You are second person to post it recently
2015/07/25, 10:29 - Adehun: Do we have members of this forum in ilorin, I to fix somethin on a friends car and I don't want to go to a "kazeem"
2015/07/25, 10:34 - Dele: I don calm down
2015/07/25, 10:35 - Shope Nnpc: @dele better
2015/07/25, 10:36 - Adehun: Oya naa,
2015/07/25, 10:36 - Adehun: Do we have members of this forum in ilorin, I to fix somethin on a friends car and I don't want to go to a "kazeem"
2015/07/25, 11:05 - +234 803 391 8271: IMG-20150725-WA0021.jpg (file attached)
2004 c320 sports
2015/07/25, 11:05 - +234 803 391 8271: IMG-20150725-WA0022.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 11:06 - +234 803 391 8271: Just say dis baby
2015/07/25, 11:06 - +234 803 391 8271: Asking price 1.3m
2015/07/25, 11:07 - Adehun: IMG-20150725-WA0023.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 11:07 - Adehun: d picture above is what "kazeem" asked my friend to change
2015/07/25, 11:07 - +234 803 391 8271: IMG-20150725-WA0024.jpg (file attached)
Damaged back door
2015/07/25, 11:08 - Kk4real: Na real kazeem b ds one
2015/07/25, 11:09 - Adehun: Na so we see am o
2015/07/25, 11:12 - Adehun: IMG-20150725-WA0025.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 11:22 - Viazi: Good morning house
2015/07/25, 11:29 - Viazi: @ Nedu, is that car tokumbo? Or Nija used?
2015/07/25, 11:43 - +234 803 391 8271: Toks
2015/07/25, 11:44 - Viazi: Location?
2015/07/25, 11:44 - +234 803 391 8271: But u know can see the SRS light and the ESP indicator flashes
2015/07/25, 11:44 - +234 803 391 8271: Its in Alausa CBD
2015/07/25, 11:45 - +234 803 391 8271: Behind elephant house
2015/07/25, 11:46 - +234 803 391 8271: I believe the accident that damaged the rear door caused the airbag to deploy
2015/07/25, 11:46 - +234 803 391 8271: 136k miles and the cluster is that of 2005
2015/07/25, 11:47 - Viazi: Chei that is not good ohh
2015/07/25, 11:47 - Viazi: Hmnnnn
2015/07/25, 11:47 - +234 803 391 8271: I reasoned that's y its 1.3m
2015/07/25, 11:47 - Viazi: Hmnnnn
2015/07/25, 11:48 - +234 803 391 8271: Na people like smartchoice and mike fit terisi
2015/07/25, 11:48 - +234 803 391 8271: Dem go fix every
2015/07/25, 11:50 - Viazi: If am in Lagos , I could have given it a shot. If those parts are available to buy and other components are ok
2015/07/25, 11:50 - Viazi: The 05 Cluster is a plus for the ride
2015/07/25, 11:50 - +234 803 391 8271: Yea
2015/07/25, 11:51 - Viazi: How many airbags deployed ?
2015/07/25, 11:53 - +234 803 391 8271: Can't say for sure but rear door and driver door for sure
2015/07/25, 11:53 - +234 803 391 8271: So minimum 2
2015/07/25, 11:57 - Viazi: We need one or too dealers here that can update house on prices of Benz cars
2015/07/25, 11:58 - Viazi: Am still in Abuja here confused about budget, I don't have an idea of price of Clean 2005 c320 w203
2015/07/25, 11:59 - SMARTCHOICE: Buy from Germany
2015/07/25, 11:59 - Dele: Lol
2015/07/25, 12:00 - Viazi: Pre order not for me ohh, I don't have the heart for it
2015/07/25, 12:00 - Dele: Naija people no dey buy from Germany
2015/07/25, 12:00 - SMARTCHOICE: Why?
2015/07/25, 12:00 - Viazi: Unless my twin brother is there
2015/07/25, 12:00 - SMARTCHOICE: Nope...
2015/07/25, 12:00 - Dele: E too dey cost
2015/07/25, 12:00 - SMARTCHOICE: Not a healthy comment
2015/07/25, 12:01 - Dele: Should I say 90% Naija people
2015/07/25, 12:01 - Dele: They prefer cotonou
2015/07/25, 12:01 - Viazi: People are even getting scammed trying to buy from Cotonou self, Germany far oh
2015/07/25, 12:02 - Viazi: @ Smart if Inspired can scam people, person suppose fear ohh
2015/07/25, 12:02 - Dele: It's cheaper there and it doesn't make financial sense to buy at a more expensive price when you can get for cheaper
2015/07/25, 12:02 - Dele: Lol, @hybrid
2015/07/25, 12:02 - Viazi: SCAMMING us the problem
2015/07/25, 12:03 - Dele: In my time here, it's usually price
2015/07/25, 12:03 - SMARTCHOICE: Right @ Dele
2015/07/25, 12:05 - Viazi: People go to Cotonou bcos they can at least monitor things by going themselves
2015/07/25, 12:05 - Dele: Imagine getting a car from cotonou for about 100k less than from Germany,
2015/07/25, 12:06 - Dele: What will you prefer
2015/07/25, 12:07 - Dele: I have seen the markets, fact is, total cost of getting a car from Germany is more than getting from the US or Canadian markets which has flooded Cotonou
2015/07/25, 12:08 - Pafestula: I still prefer my cars direct from Germany
2015/07/25, 12:08 - Pafestula: Especially German product
2015/07/25, 12:08 - Pafestula: BMW, Volkswagen and Almighty Benz
2015/07/25, 12:09 - Dele: Then you are perhaps in that 10%
2015/07/25, 12:09 - Pafestula: But others.. I can even get it via OLX, Jumai and Kaymu, pay after delivery
2015/07/25, 12:09 - Dele: Lol @ Jumia and Kaymu
2015/07/25, 12:09 - Dele: Are they household goods?
2015/07/25, 12:10 - Pafestula: I mentioned cars above, the rest I rate them as electronics, sentiment apart o
2015/07/25, 12:11 - Viazi: @ FESTO how can U achieve that? From Germany to pay on Delivery?
2015/07/25, 12:11 - Pafestula: U dont understand me@ hybrid
2015/07/25, 12:12 - Viazi: OK those of U that have bought from Germany should teach us.
2015/07/25, 12:12 - Pafestula: [12:08PM, 7/25/2015] Festo: I still prefer my cars direct from Germany
[12:08PM, 7/25/2015] Festo: Especially German product
[12:08PM, 7/25/2015] Festo: BMW, Volkswagen and Almighty Benz
2015/07/25, 12:12 - Viazi: TOPIC- How to buy BENZ from Germany
2015/07/25, 12:13 - Dele: Lemme break it down a bit
2015/07/25, 12:13 - Viazi: OK pls, this is the best lecture ever delivered by U
2015/07/25, 12:13 - Pafestula: But other cars.. I can even get it via OLX, Jumai and Kaymu, pay after delivery within Nigeria, because they are very common and not a scarce commodity
2015/07/25, 12:14 - Viazi: Another person can teach us how to personally buy car from Cotonou and clear it to Nigeria
2015/07/25, 12:14 - Viazi: @ Festo, I get U now
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2015/07/25, 12:15 - Viazi: My Question, How do U buy car from Germany?
2015/07/25, 12:15 - Dele: For owners sakes and information, check either of www.mobile.de, www.autoscout24.de and even if possible www.ebay.de
2015/07/25, 12:15 - Dele: preferably, search for private sellers - Usually cheaper, and better conditions
2015/07/25, 12:15 - Dele: From experience, maximum reduction from price posted is between 300-500 euros
2015/07/25, 12:15 - Dele: 500 euros is actually very hard
2015/07/25, 12:16 - Viazi: After finding the car?
2015/07/25, 12:16 - Dele: After seeing the prefered car, you can contact the owner declaring interest
2015/07/25, 12:17 - SMARTCHOICE: 🚶
2015/07/25, 12:17 - Dele: secret about this is, getting a German speaker is best as that's their weakpoint.
2015/07/25, 12:17 - Dele: Best deals are gotten if your negotiate in Deutsch
2015/07/25, 12:17 - Viazi: @ Smart come back ohh
2015/07/25, 12:17 - Pafestula: Hybrid.. Let's in private now if u need a car and ready now
2015/07/25, 12:18 - Camaro: Good afternoon all
2015/07/25, 12:18 - Pafestula: But if you are not ready,, dont border @ Hybrid
2015/07/25, 12:19 - Sope: Dotun you welcome tp the house
2015/07/25, 12:20 - Dele: Price agreed, prepare money for fuel to pick up, book for shipping, and voila!
2015/07/25, 12:20 - Viazi: @ Festo, U have PM
2015/07/25, 12:21 - Shope Nnpc: @ Shope, thanks bro.
2015/07/25, 12:21 - SMARTCHOICE: Voila
2015/07/25, 12:24 - Sope: Dotun is a good friend of mine. He uses a W203 240 4matic
2015/07/25, 12:25 - SMARTCHOICE: Sun nacking my head at mega
2015/07/25, 12:25 - SMARTCHOICE: Viazi OYO for you
2015/07/25, 12:26 - Camaro: Dotun introduce yourself to the house
2015/07/25, 12:26 - Zadoc: K,let d physics no go too deep Sir!
2015/07/25, 12:29 - Viazi: @ Smart 😀😀😀
2015/07/25, 12:30 - Sope: Dotun will get back soon. He' busy at work
2015/07/25, 12:31 - Sope: Oga smart sorry o.
2015/07/25, 12:33 - Shope Nnpc: My name is oladotun
2015/07/25, 12:33 - Shope Nnpc: Am new here
2015/07/25, 12:35 - +234 803 461 4675: 😄
2015/07/25, 12:35 - +234 803 461 4675: This harness decay na wa
2015/07/25, 12:36 - Mr Adu: Dotun, Kaabo sinu agbo awon oni imo ijinle oko ayokele MERCEDES BENZ
2015/07/25, 12:37 - Sope: Abiola where you dey
2015/07/25, 12:37 - Sope: I no sabi most of una cos of una names.
2015/07/25, 12:38 - Shope Nnpc: Lol.
2015/07/25, 12:38 - Sope: Who be Gem solution? Who be Ace royal.
2015/07/25, 12:39 - Shope Nnpc: IMG-20150725-WA0027.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 12:40 - Shope Nnpc: IMG-20150725-WA0028.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 12:40 - Shope Nnpc: Ve been having problem with my car AC
2015/07/25, 12:40 - Shope Nnpc: Any advice from u guys
2015/07/25, 12:40 - Shope Nnpc: The compressor is not gud
2015/07/25, 12:41 - Sope: Abeg lets help our newest member out with the issue of his A/C
2015/07/25, 12:42 - Pafestula: Saden compressor noni
2015/07/25, 12:42 - Pafestula: Peugeot Saden compressor noni
2015/07/25, 12:42 - Sope: Aikerism where art thou? Bigmeat where art thou
2015/07/25, 12:43 - SMARTCHOICE: Money and car keys no time for long talk
2015/07/25, 12:43 - Sope: Dotun's baby is a W203
2015/07/25, 12:44 - Sope: @Dotun what exactly is the problem?
2015/07/25, 12:44 - SMARTCHOICE: If you like W209
2015/07/25, 12:45 - Sope: Is it that its not cooling? Or it doesn't cool well or its not working at all
2015/07/25, 12:47 - SMARTCHOICE: With six months guarantee
2015/07/25, 12:48 - SMARTCHOICE: 1. You'll talk here still he goes back to a kazeem ....
2015/07/25, 12:48 - SMARTCHOICE: Unless he's going to Abj
2015/07/25, 12:48 - SMARTCHOICE: Or Akure
2015/07/25, 12:50 - Shope Nnpc: @ Shope the compressor is bad, I've changed it twice still not working. To my own satisfaction
2015/07/25, 12:51 - Shope Nnpc: Someone advice me to try manual compressor.
2015/07/25, 12:51 - +234 818 656 0236: @dotman, if u can, come to Abj and ur ac problem will be history
2015/07/25, 12:51 - +234 818 656 0236: Ur car is same as mine
2015/07/25, 12:52 - Shope Nnpc: Wanna knw it it's advisable to do so.
2015/07/25, 12:52 - Sope: HOUSE which one is manual compressor? Abeg no allow Kazzems deal with Dotun o
2015/07/25, 12:52 - SMARTCHOICE: Even if its your kazeem is the weak link
2015/07/25, 12:52 - +234 818 656 0236: I didn't think twice after aikerism's advice
2015/07/25, 12:53 - +234 818 656 0236: Now I enjoy my ac
2015/07/25, 12:53 - SMARTCHOICE: Same here
2015/07/25, 12:53 - SMARTCHOICE: Same man
2015/07/25, 12:53 - Shope Nnpc: @abuja guy, like how much will it cost me.
2015/07/25, 12:54 - +234 818 656 0236: Ejike is just the solution here in abj
2015/07/25, 12:54 - +234 818 656 0236: Let me post the breakdown
2015/07/25, 12:54 - Sope: I have told Dotun abt abuja bt it seems he's considering distance.
2015/07/25, 12:56 - +234 818 656 0236: IMG-20150725-WA0029.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 12:57 - +234 818 656 0236: U may not need to change everything on the list if they re ok
2015/07/25, 12:57 - +234 818 656 0236: In my own case I had to change valve and condenser cos they were bad
2015/07/25, 12:58 - +234 818 656 0236: And the guy does it with guarantee
2015/07/25, 12:58 - +234 818 656 0236: So make up ur mind
2015/07/25, 12:59 - +234 818 656 0236: All thanks to aikerism
2015/07/25, 13:00 - Viazi: That's good to know, I hate cars without AC
2015/07/25, 13:00 - Viazi: A car without Ac is worse than Keke
2015/07/25, 13:01 - +234 818 656 0236: IMG-20150725-WA0030.jpg (file attached)
wen work was in progress
2015/07/25, 13:01 - +234 818 656 0236: I can't even imagine it
2015/07/25, 13:02 - +234 818 656 0236: A car without ac is "suffering"
2015/07/25, 13:02 - Viazi: That pixs look like Apo Mech village
2015/07/25, 13:03 - +234 818 656 0236: Ya
2015/07/25, 13:03 - +234 818 656 0236: That's apo
2015/07/25, 13:03 - Viazi: I live very close to Mech village
2015/07/25, 13:04 - Viazi: Opposite Shoprite to be precise, Apo is my territory ohh
2015/07/25, 13:05 - Shope Nnpc: @good to great, thanks for the information
2015/07/25, 13:05 - Shope Nnpc: I will keep u posted
2015/07/25, 13:06 - +234 818 656 0236: U welcome @dotman
2015/07/25, 13:06 - Shope Nnpc: Will let u knw when am ready to come to abuja
2015/07/25, 13:06 - +234 818 656 0236: Aiit
2015/07/25, 13:06 - +234 818 656 0236: We dey
2015/07/25, 13:07 - Shope Nnpc: @good to great, pls check ur compressor for me if it's manual or automatic
2015/07/25, 13:08 - +234 818 656 0236: U mean the one I have now or the one I had b4?
2015/07/25, 13:10 - +234 818 656 0236: IMG-20150725-WA0031.jpg (file attached)
That's the sadden peugeot 507 compressor
2015/07/25, 13:11 - Shope Nnpc: The one u re using now
2015/07/25, 13:11 - +234 818 656 0236: It's manual
2015/07/25, 13:11 - Shope Nnpc: Aii
2015/07/25, 13:11 - Viazi: Yes, na, its Peugeot Compressor, which I learnt is the best
2015/07/25, 13:13 - Shope Nnpc: @ good to great thanks for the advice U are highly appreciated
2015/07/25, 13:15 - +234 818 656 0236: 👍
2015/07/25, 13:24 - Mr Adu: I think Shoppy need to visit the platform archive to update his new phone 🔦
2015/07/25, 13:26 - Kk4real: Abj peeps. E b lyk say i go dey una town next week o
2015/07/25, 14:22 - +234 803 461 4675: 2015 G-Class Benzmatic.
2015/07/25, 14:53 - Musbee: House!!!
2015/07/25, 14:53 - Musbee: I saw B class today
2015/07/25, 14:53 - Musbee: Very fine😌
2015/07/25, 14:53 - +234 803 461 4675: 🏃
2015/07/25, 14:57 - Brightcom: a "B" iola class
2015/07/25, 15:00 - SMARTCHOICE: The B class
2015/07/25, 15:00 - SMARTCHOICE: 🚶
2015/07/25, 15:00 - Brightcom: Smart wher u dey waka go?
2015/07/25, 15:00 - Musbee: Festo, any comment?
2015/07/25, 15:11 - +234 803 461 4675: B class?
2015/07/25, 15:11 - +234 803 461 4675: 🏃
2015/07/25, 15:57 - Ralph: B class? Nyc looking ride tho,bt dnt rily knw anytin abt it.
2015/07/25, 15:58 - D1: Is there a B class?
2015/07/25, 15:58 - Ralph: Yep dere is.
2015/07/25, 16:03 - Ralph: A hatchback
2015/07/25, 16:03 - Ralph: IMG-20150725-WA0032.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 16:05 - +234 803 461 4675: There is a smart class too.
2015/07/25, 16:05 - Dele: The smart class is unrivalled yet as regards fuel consumption
2015/07/25, 16:06 - +234 803 461 4675: 😄
2015/07/25, 16:06 - +234 803 461 4675: And a cash class too
2015/07/25, 16:06 - Dele: I doubt even the #micra1.0L can stand beside it
2015/07/25, 16:07 - +234 803 461 4675: The festo class uses semi automatic gear
2015/07/25, 16:07 - Dele: OYO @Abiola
2015/07/25, 16:08 - +234 803 461 4675: The shoppy class has double exhaust pipe
2015/07/25, 16:08 - Dele: <========🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃
2015/07/25, 16:08 - +234 803 461 4675: 😄
2015/07/25, 16:09 - +234 803 461 4675: A Del class is parked at the front of my house now
2015/07/25, 16:20 - Aikerism: Lol
2015/07/25, 16:20 - Aikerism: Abiola ehh...
2015/07/25, 16:21 - Musbee: I love hatchbacks
2015/07/25, 16:21 - Musbee: I don't know why
2015/07/25, 18:17 - +234 705 333 1484: Hello House
2015/07/25, 18:22 - Kewt: Good day house
2015/07/25, 18:44 - +234 803 461 4675: It is because u love ladies @ Musberry
2015/07/25, 18:51 - +234 703 799 0298: Good day house
2015/07/25, 18:53 - +234 803 461 4675: Mossad
2015/07/25, 18:56 - Dele: Who be MOSSAD for here @Abiola?
2015/07/25, 18:57 - +234 705 333 1484: Hello House,I got a 2008 Reg ML 350 for sale,in pristine condition.2.5m
2015/07/25, 19:05 - Viazi: Hmnnn
2015/07/25, 19:07 - Viazi: Y are people selling that fine ride?
2015/07/25, 19:10 - +234 803 461 4675: Nah d lastest Sclass 6matic @ uncle Dele
2015/07/25, 19:17 - +234 705 333 1484: IMG-20150725-WA0033.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 19:17 - +234 705 333 1484: IMG-20150725-WA0034.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 19:17 - +234 705 333 1484: IMG-20150725-WA0037.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 19:17 - +234 705 333 1484: IMG-20150725-WA0036.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 19:17 - +234 705 333 1484: IMG-20150725-WA0035.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 19:23 - +234 705 333 1484: IMG-20150725-WA0038.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 19:24 - +234 705 333 1484: IMG-20150725-WA0039.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 19:24 - +234 705 333 1484: IMG-20150725-WA0040.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 19:29 - Viazi: Na Toks?
2015/07/25, 19:29 - Musbee: @ace, will they take my ML plus N1miilion?
2015/07/25, 19:29 - Viazi: 😀
2015/07/25, 19:36 - SMARTCHOICE: Do you know that the amount of fuel pushed through the fuel injectors is determined and controlled by the ECU engine control unit?
2015/07/25, 19:39 - SMARTCHOICE: Do you know that this quantity is set by the values recorded by the ECU as it monitors
A. Amount of air flowing inside the engine
B. The oxygen in the exhaust
C. The throttle valve position
D. The coolant temperature
E. The engine speed etc
2015/07/25, 19:40 - SMARTCHOICE: Why do we need to clean fuel injectors?
2015/07/25, 19:41 - SMARTCHOICE: Any idea?
2015/07/25, 19:41 - Oyibo: In order to get rid of dirt caused by bad fuel
2015/07/25, 19:43 - SMARTCHOICE: Great
2015/07/25, 19:43 - SMARTCHOICE: But there's more!
2015/07/25, 19:44 - SMARTCHOICE: Do you know that clean injectors are NECESSARY for fuel economy and peak engine performance?
2015/07/25, 19:44 - SMARTCHOICE: Let me explain
2015/07/25, 19:45 - Lomomike: www.nairaland.com/2477187/registered-benz-e350-4matic#36267753
2015/07/25, 19:46 - +234 705 333 1484: No sir,helping a Frnd market it@musberry
2015/07/25, 19:47 - +234 705 333 1484: Twas used with a special number,barely driven
2015/07/25, 19:47 - SMARTCHOICE: After a certain number of kilometres fuel injectors can get clogged causing a misfire or sputtering....
2015/07/25, 19:48 - SMARTCHOICE: Also there's the problem of heat soak
2015/07/25, 19:49 - Lomomike: IMG-20150725-WA0041.jpg (file attached)
He captioned it E350
2015/07/25, 19:49 - SMARTCHOICE: This is where fuel residues evaporate and a wax like residue remains
2015/07/25, 19:52 - SMARTCHOICE: It usually occurs during the cool down process of the engine... That is after the engine is fully warmed at operating temperature
2015/07/25, 19:56 - SMARTCHOICE: When the engine is turned off no air flows through the engine to cool it down or wash away the fuel residues on the injector tips....this results into a waxy build up on the injectors..... Which after a while causes significant build ups that needs to be cleaned for the engine to function properly
2015/07/25, 19:57 - SMARTCHOICE: Symptoms that injectors require cleaning... Include episodes of dirty emissions and decreased fuel economy
2015/07/25, 19:59 - SMARTCHOICE: Another is an unexplained power loss or hesitation after depressing the gas pedal...
2015/07/25, 20:00 - SMARTCHOICE: For how to clean injectors thoroughly I leave Mike to do Justice.... As prof festo is on sabbatical...
2015/07/25, 20:01 - Brightcom: Lolz
2015/07/25, 20:02 - SMARTCHOICE: Note its a bad habit revving car before switching the ignition off!
2015/07/25, 20:03 - Musbee: @ smart does it include increased smoke from exhaust?
2015/07/25, 20:03 - Zadoc: If u lose your mobile you can trace it back.
Most of us always fear that our Mobile may be stolen at any time.
Each mobile carries a unique
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This is how it works!!
1. Dial *#06# from your mobile.
2. Your mobile shows a unique 15 digit.
3. Note down this number at a secure place except in your mobile phone itself as this is the Number which will help trace your mobile in Case of a theft.
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Your name:____________________
Address:______________________
Phone model:_________________
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5. No need to go to the police.
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please PASS ON THIS VERY
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2015/07/25, 20:03 - Viazi: I like the smoke from Exhaust
2015/07/25, 20:04 - Viazi: The black smoke😀
2015/07/25, 20:06 - Lomomike: And Injector Cleaning
2015/07/25, 20:06 - Lomomike: Good evening Class
2015/07/25, 20:06 - Lomomike: I am yours truly, Mike
2015/07/25, 20:06 - Lomomike: Known as Lomomike (the controversial one on NL)
2015/07/25, 20:06 - Lomomike: I am here to discuss with you on a rather interesting topic
2015/07/25, 20:06 - Lomomike: Its called Injector
2015/07/25, 20:07 - Lomomike: What is an Injector?
2015/07/25, 20:07 - Lomomike: I'd like us to participate in this discussion
2015/07/25, 20:08 - Viazi: Na how car take dey breathe in air ohh
2015/07/25, 20:08 - +234 705 333 1484: *grabs a seat😋
2015/07/25, 20:09 - Viazi: 😀I be chief kazeem
2015/07/25, 20:10 - Brightcom: Welcome our teacher
2015/07/25, 20:14 - Zadoc: Nice 2 b in time 4 class!
2015/07/25, 20:14 - Zadoc: Takes front row seat!
2015/07/25, 20:14 - Lomomike: So that we can understand the topic better
2015/07/25, 20:15 - Lomomike: Any one with an answer to my question?
2015/07/25, 20:15 - Lomomike: What is an injector?
2015/07/25, 20:15 - Lomomike: Well, an Injector is a system in an automobile which introduces fuel into the cylinders of an engine (usually controlled via ECU)
2015/07/25, 20:16 - Zadoc: Injector is dat part of d engine setup dt pushes in required amount of fuel into d engine's combustion chamber as determined by d ECU.
2015/07/25, 20:16 - Zadoc: *Sorry,d cylinders.
2015/07/25, 20:16 - Lomomike: Often times, our car Mileage starts to drop
2015/07/25, 20:16 - Lomomike: A lot of things causes this drop in mileage
2015/07/25, 20:17 - Lomomike: One of them is very microscopic fine dirts which have found their way into the injector
2015/07/25, 20:17 - Lomomike: The injector can't expel these fine dirts because it has a very fine nozzle for spraying air/fuel mixture
2015/07/25, 20:17 - SMARTCHOICE: Zadoc please!
2015/07/25, 20:17 - SMARTCHOICE: Yes @Musbee
2015/07/25, 20:19 - SMARTCHOICE: Mike seems to be having network issues
2015/07/25, 20:19 - SMARTCHOICE: But class goes on please bear with him
2015/07/25, 20:20 - Zadoc: Pls,not clear how mileage drops!
2015/07/25, 20:20 - Zadoc: As in how?
2015/07/25, 20:20 - SMARTCHOICE: I have explained earlier sir
2015/07/25, 20:23 - Lomomike: Zadoc, mileage drops can be caused by various factors including a constriction or restriction of injection
2015/07/25, 20:23 - Lomomike: Let me put a disclaimer here first.
2015/07/25, 20:23 - Lomomike: Mike isn't responsible for any harm to anyones engine
2015/07/25, 20:23 - Lomomike: Various engines are designed to react to different chemicals
2015/07/25, 20:23 - Lomomike: Rubbers can easily breakdown when they contact harsh chemicals
2015/07/25, 20:23 - Lomomike: That said, they're various ways to clean off the injector one is by use of chemicals which are introduced into the fuel tank
2015/07/25, 20:23 - Lomomike: Second is by physically taking each injector out of the injector chamber and cleaning them off individually yet carefully
2015/07/25, 20:24 - SMARTCHOICE: It affects economy by producing a leaning effect
2015/07/25, 20:24 - Lomomike: Now back to our discussion
2015/07/25, 20:24 - Lomomike: One can introduce seafoam which is a cleaning formula into the fuel tank to clean up impurities in the injectors
2015/07/25, 20:25 - SMARTCHOICE: As injectors when dirty or clogged can't deliver adequate fuel especially at high rpms
2015/07/25, 20:25 - SMARTCHOICE: Please ask other questions after Mike is through
2015/07/25, 20:25 - Lomomike: Now after putting a little quantity of seafoam, you drive for a while and notice how you get smoke tailing you.
2015/07/25, 20:26 - Lomomike: 2nd way of cleaning the injector is more practical and technical for a Novice
2015/07/25, 20:26 - Zadoc: K,wat isnt clear is d terminology "drop in mileage"! Does it mean less mileage covered as against when injectors are in good shape or reduction in mileage readings on d MFD?
2015/07/25, 20:27 - Lomomike: But I'd make it simpler via my explanation
2015/07/25, 20:27 - Zadoc: Sorry 4 my naivity ooooo!
2015/07/25, 20:27 - Zadoc: K,proceed den Sir!
2015/07/25, 20:28 - Lomomike: Okay Zadoc, drop in mileage means the car starts consuming more fuel or even less fuel
2015/07/25, 20:28 - Lomomike: 2nd step are as follow
2015/07/25, 20:29 - Zadoc: Tnx,very clear now!
2015/07/25, 20:29 - Lomomike: 1. Turn off ignition, and disconnect battery/power source terminals
2015/07/25, 20:31 - Lomomike: 2. Locate fuel railing (which is a metallic hollow pipes which is in engine which connects the injectors and introduces fuel to injector
2015/07/25, 20:32 - Lomomike: 3. Install a U tube or return tube to the fuel railing pipe joint where a fuel line comes to meet it, tis is to ensure fuel returns to the fuel tank and isn't wasted or spilled
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: Pls If your car uses a Diesel engine, DON'T even attempt to carry out this operations it is very hazardous and can cause severe injuries due to fluid contact to the skin at very high pressure
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: That said, once you've installed a return tube or U pipe, then loosen all nuts and screws holding the fuel railing in place
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: 5. After loosing fuel railing, carefully remove all wiring harnesses attached to each injector, but note the arrangement and location of each wire so as not to re-attach them wrongly
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: 6. Carefully remove each injector from the fuel intake hole, and using a Carb cleaner with a fine nozzle, spray generous amounts of carb cleaner on the injector to clean off dirts on the body.
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: Get two thin wires, and attach them to the metallic terminals of the injector nozzle, then attach second end of wire to a car battery
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: Close the circuitry and spray the same carb cleaner compound into the injector from the fuel rail end and observe as the injector nozzle sprays out.
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: Be careful so as not to damage the injector with high voltage
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: Repeat procedure for all injectors
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: Then allow them to dry off
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: Install the injectors. In reverse order as I explained above
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: Ensure all bolts, nuts, screws are torqued to the right specification
2015/07/25, 20:42 - Lomomike: DON'T lose the injector rubber ring
2015/07/25, 20:43 - Lomomike: This rubber ring ensure no gaps or vacuum exists between injector and engine fuel intake hole
2015/07/25, 20:44 - Lomomike: Re attach all pipes securely and turn on engine
2015/07/25, 20:45 - Lomomike: Listen for hisses and strange noises
2015/07/25, 20:45 - Lomomike: Also observe for leakages and loss of power
2015/07/25, 20:45 - Lomomike: END OF LECTURE
2015/07/25, 20:46 - Lomomike: Questions are welcome
2015/07/25, 20:46 - Lomomike: Pls ask questions
2015/07/25, 20:48 - Zadoc: As u said,ds last part is 2 technical 4 some of us not well versed in DIY,so how good does d inj cleaner do ds work?
2015/07/25, 20:49 - Zadoc: Is it as good as practically removing n cleaning d injectors or nearly close?
2015/07/25, 20:49 - Lomomike: I can't vouch for any product
2015/07/25, 20:49 - Lomomike: But some claim it works, some claim its hoax
2015/07/25, 20:49 - Zadoc: And is it adviisable 2 regularly e.g 1ce in 2-3mths 2 b using d inj cleaner?
2015/07/25, 20:50 - SMARTCHOICE: Injector cleaners 🙉
2015/07/25, 20:50 - SMARTCHOICE: Best is off car cleaning periodically
2015/07/25, 20:51 - Zadoc: So any oda way out den?
2015/07/25, 20:51 - Lomomike: I can't recommend regular cleaning of car injectors
2015/07/25, 20:52 - Zadoc: K,so does it mean 1 'll hav 2 b patronizing d mechs every say 2-3mths 2 clean d injectors?
2015/07/25, 20:52 - Zadoc: Is dt advisable or harmful?
2015/07/25, 20:52 - Lomomike: I however would suggest u clean when you get any funny Low MPG
2015/07/25, 20:54 - SMARTCHOICE: Now to add the father of all....cheap gas or bad gas like we have here with less than adequate additives results into harmful deposits build up in the engine....
2015/07/25, 20:54 - Zadoc: K
2015/07/25, 20:54 - Yunusa: ML350?
2015/07/25, 20:57 - Lomomike: Not always adviceable
2015/07/25, 20:57 - SMARTCHOICE: The shorter the trip durations and the more the drive cycles .....the faster deposits build up!... Hence car used by a woman just for office runs.... Know what to check
2015/07/25, 20:58 - SMARTCHOICE: Market and school runs vehicles too
2015/07/25, 20:58 - SMARTCHOICE: Ciao!
2015/07/25, 20:58 - SMARTCHOICE: We await prof festo
2015/07/25, 20:59 - Zadoc: So longer trips equate less filth build up she?
2015/07/25, 21:00 - Zadoc: Hence need 4 less freq inj cleaning if am ryt!
2015/07/25, 21:01 - SMARTCHOICE: Yh
2015/07/25, 21:01 - Lomomike: Also a car that always run on low fuel or empty fuel is a worst culprit of blocked injector
2015/07/25, 21:02 - SMARTCHOICE: However the fuel quality in 9ja require the use detergent dispersants
2015/07/25, 21:03 - Danadam: Sowie guys... I've been on the road. Did kano-kaduna-kano today.
2015/07/25, 21:03 - Danadam: Lemme catch up
2015/07/25, 21:03 - SMARTCHOICE: This helps to keep the intake manifold clean
2015/07/25, 21:04 - Lomomike: Any question?
2015/07/25, 21:04 - Lomomike: True @ Smart
2015/07/25, 21:05 - SMARTCHOICE: Then there's the process of decarbonization... Next time if prof festo tarries
2015/07/25, 21:06 - Lomomike: Yea
2015/07/25, 21:08 - Zadoc: @Smart,any e.g of such detergent dispersant?
2015/07/25, 21:08 - SMARTCHOICE: Mike am interested in stubborn valve intake and combustion chambers deposits removal...can you help out?
2015/07/25, 21:09 - Zadoc: And does 1 pour it into d fuel tank as is done wt d injec cleaner?
2015/07/25, 21:10 - SMARTCHOICE: Xft
2015/07/25, 21:10 - SMARTCHOICE: This is Auhanson's turf
2015/07/25, 21:11 - Zadoc: Aiit Sir
2015/07/25, 21:13 - Zadoc: Pls is it readily available in d country?
2015/07/25, 21:13 - SMARTCHOICE: Yes
2015/07/25, 21:13 - SMARTCHOICE: Konga
2015/07/25, 21:14 - Zadoc: Tnx sir,n any idea of d price?
2015/07/25, 21:15 - Zadoc: Will check out NL (auhanson's post) 4 d directions of usage!
2015/07/25, 21:16 - SMARTCHOICE: 👍
2015/07/25, 21:26 - Aikerism: Good evening house...
2015/07/25, 21:54 - +234 803 391 8271: Good evening house
2015/07/25, 21:55 - +234 803 491 1766: Nedu bobo
2015/07/25, 21:56 - +234 803 491 1766: Oga smart wat is xft
2015/07/25, 21:57 - Zadoc: Extreme Fuel Treatment
2015/07/25, 21:57 - +234 803 391 8271: I took 16,367 steps today in my legedez benz
2015/07/25, 21:57 - +234 803 391 8271: That's my peedometer reading
2015/07/25, 21:58 - +234 803 491 1766: Ok
2015/07/25, 21:58 - Zadoc: Datz xft,supposedly works wonders beta dan our regular injector cleaners @Ejiz.
2015/07/25, 21:59 - +234 803 491 1766: Is dt stuff good 4 cars. N does it mk our fuel prenium
2015/07/25, 21:59 - +234 803 491 1766: Ohhh rily
2015/07/25, 21:59 - +234 803 491 1766: Was scared of usin it on ma car
2015/07/25, 22:03 - Zadoc: 4 details of its wonders n how 2 use it,go thru NL forum particularly auhanson's posts!
2015/07/25, 22:03 - +234 803 491 1766: Hmmmm
2015/07/25, 22:05 - +234 803 391 8271: Auhanson na something else,would track him someday
2015/07/25, 22:06 - Zadoc: Wonder y he isnt here!
2015/07/25, 22:06 - +234 803 491 1766: Y is he nut in dis forum
2015/07/25, 22:06 - +234 803 491 1766: N eyop as well
2015/07/25, 22:06 - Zadoc: N people,brains like Trac etc.
2015/07/25, 22:06 - +234 803 391 8271: D guy no get time to press phone
2015/07/25, 22:07 - +234 803 491 1766: Even siena
2015/07/25, 22:07 - +234 803 391 8271: Na 3310 dem dey use
2015/07/25, 22:07 - +234 803 491 1766: Ok. Na pilot him b ?
2015/07/25, 22:07 - Zadoc: Chaiiii,dt trac na sth else. I pray i bcom well versed,ano almighty guru in Benz matters like Trac.
2015/07/25, 22:08 - +234 803 491 1766: Bros no b small o!
2015/07/25, 22:08 - +234 803 491 1766: Dem mk mi dey carry permanent L-sign 4 benz mata o
2015/07/25, 22:09 - Zadoc: I swear dt tym i'll eat,drink n sleep Benz 4eva!!! Nothing more nor else. Benz (D best or nothing)!
2015/07/25, 22:09 - Zadoc: *Nothing more nor less
2015/07/25, 22:20 - +44 7432 870840: Good evening Tri Star users!
2015/07/25, 22:21 - SMARTCHOICE: Evening Siena
2015/07/25, 22:21 - SMARTCHOICE: Oga @d top
2015/07/25, 22:21 - Dele: Evening Siena
2015/07/25, 22:21 - Dele: The real oga at the top👆
2015/07/25, 22:21 - +44 7432 870840: My brothers, good evening.
2015/07/25, 22:22 - Dele: www.siena that's all
2015/07/25, 22:25 - Zadoc: Chaiii! Dama Siena dey 4 ds mansion?
2015/07/25, 22:25 - Zadoc: Oga @ d Summit sef,Dobale!
2015/07/25, 22:26 - Viazi: Make I hide my Kazeem brain ohh, Sienna dey here
2015/07/25, 22:26 - Viazi: 🚶
2015/07/25, 22:26 - Zadoc: D Audi Wizard,we bow in salute!!!
2015/07/25, 22:26 - Zadoc: I blv it's still saturday abi?
2015/07/25, 22:27 - Zadoc: Oga Smart,our lifeline still dey!
2015/07/25, 22:27 - +44 7432 870840: It sure is.
2015/07/25, 22:27 - +44 7432 870840: Just 22:28 hrs.
2015/07/25, 22:28 - Zadoc: ?,as Trac is 2 Benz,Siena is to Audi,who is 2 Beema(BMW)?
2015/07/25, 22:28 - SMARTCHOICE: Mr Siena please can you shed some light on the decarbonization of gasoline engines and steps to put these engines and fuel system in shape... Thanks
2015/07/25, 22:30 - +234 803 491 1766: Master siena 🙅i greet u in bruce lee voice
2015/07/25, 22:30 - +44 7432 870840: Poor quality fuel causes gum deposits in injectors. The only way to clean them is to have them cleaned ultrasonically.
2015/07/25, 22:30 - Viazi: Ultrasonically ....I just fainted
2015/07/25, 22:31 - +234 803 491 1766: Lol
2015/07/25, 22:31 - +44 7432 870840: I would advise a decent fuel treatment is used every 3rd tank full.
2015/07/25, 22:32 - +44 7432 870840: This way, the deposits that clog the injectors, causing them to stick are kept at bay.
2015/07/25, 22:33 - Zadoc: Pls indulge me n answer me "?".
2015/07/25, 22:33 - Zadoc: Hmmm,Ejiz u n ds ur Bruce lee saga
2015/07/25, 22:33 - +234 803 491 1766: Hahahaha
2015/07/25, 22:34 - SMARTCHOICE: Zadoc please some are trying to actually learn...quietly
2015/07/25, 22:34 - +44 7432 870840: Forget about pulling the cylinder head/s, though this is the best way to get rid of carbon deposits in the combustion chambers in 1 hit.
2015/07/25, 22:34 - SMARTCHOICE: Why?@Siena
2015/07/25, 22:36 - Zadoc: 😷
2015/07/25, 22:36 - +44 7432 870840: Which bit, Smart?
2015/07/25, 22:37 - SMARTCHOICE: Why do you discourage cylinder head pulling?
2015/07/25, 22:38 - SMARTCHOICE: What alternative exist which is equally effective?
2015/07/25, 22:41 - +44 7432 870840: Because there is a great margin for error, when non qualified mechanics put it back together. Wrong timing settings, wrong torque settings for the head bolts, sub-standard gaskets etc. you'll end up with more grief than a shed load of carbon could ever cause.
2015/07/25, 22:41 - SMARTCHOICE: Wow!
2015/07/25, 22:43 - SMARTCHOICE: So what's the way out? If one needs to decarbonize the car's engine
2015/07/25, 22:44 - +44 7432 870840: Regular use of fuel treatment will remove the deposits, and keep things clean. And it is important to use the CORRECT oil, with detergents too.
2015/07/25, 22:45 - Lomomike: If I can chip in, that error in headbolt is what causes stripped headbolt is toyota's 2AZ-FE
2015/07/25, 22:45 - SMARTCHOICE: For combustion chambers and valves?
2015/07/25, 22:45 - +44 7432 870840: It's safer than having your precious MB ruined by untrained hands.
2015/07/25, 22:45 - +44 7432 870840: @ Smart, yes.
2015/07/25, 22:46 - SMARTCHOICE: So synthetic oil is a must?
2015/07/25, 22:47 - +44 7432 870840: For MB engines built after 1996, yes.
2015/07/25, 22:47 - Lomomike: If one have used a wrong grade oil (eg 20W50 and later switched to recommended oil (eg 5W20), but experiences depletion in oil level, what should one do? @ Siena
2015/07/25, 22:49 - +44 7432 870840: I would run 5W-30. A bit heavier than 5W-20, so less blow-by via piston rings.
2015/07/25, 22:50 - +44 7432 870840: 20W-50 is like honey! Way too thick. Circulation when engine is cold will be poor.
2015/07/25, 22:50 - SMARTCHOICE: So I can change from 20W50 to 5W40? @ Siena
2015/07/25, 22:50 - Lomomike: Ok
2015/07/25, 22:50 - +44 7432 870840: Yes.
2015/07/25, 22:50 - SMARTCHOICE: Side effects?
2015/07/25, 22:50 - Lomomike: But for engines requiring 5W30 which experiences this, what do oil you suggest
2015/07/25, 22:51 - +44 7432 870840: If you can get hold of Castrol 5W-30 Low Ash, even better. You will build up very little carbon deposits.
2015/07/25, 22:52 - SMARTCHOICE: For 5W40?
2015/07/25, 22:52 - +44 7432 870840: 5W-40 Semi Synthetic. For very high mileage engines.
2015/07/25, 22:53 - SMARTCHOICE: Seems that's not available here
2015/07/25, 22:54 - +44 7432 870840: Amazon. Well worth the effort and financial outlay.
2015/07/25, 22:54 - SMARTCHOICE: Except total quartz 7000 oil!
2015/07/25, 22:55 - SMARTCHOICE: 10W40 semi synthetic
2015/07/25, 22:55 - +44 7432 870840: What grade is it?
2015/07/25, 22:55 - +44 7432 870840: Oh, got you.
2015/07/25, 22:56 - +44 7432 870840: I wouldn't recommend it.
2015/07/25, 22:56 - SMARTCHOICE: Really? Why?
2015/07/25, 22:58 - +44 7432 870840: Wrong viscosity. Unless it's an older engine.
2015/07/25, 22:59 - SMARTCHOICE: So what can you recommend?
2015/07/25, 22:59 - SMARTCHOICE: Its an m111 engine
2015/07/25, 23:00 - SMARTCHOICE: Older engine like how many mileage specifically. Thanks
2015/07/25, 23:01 - +44 7432 870840: 259,000 miles and beyond.
2015/07/25, 23:01 - +44 7432 870840: *250,000.
2015/07/25, 23:02 - +44 7432 870840: If it's a Kompressor M111, you really need fully synthetic oil.
2015/07/25, 23:02 - SMARTCHOICE: Not a kompressor
2015/07/25, 23:03 - +44 7432 870840: Then you're lucky. 👍🏽
2015/07/25, 23:03 - SMARTCHOICE: So?
2015/07/25, 23:03 - SMARTCHOICE: 10W40?
2015/07/25, 23:03 - SMARTCHOICE: Or recommended 5W40?
2015/07/25, 23:05 - +44 7432 870840: If the mileage is that high as I previously posted, you can get away with 10W-40. There is the risk of sludge though. 5W-40 is a trifle better.
2015/07/25, 23:06 - SMARTCHOICE: Hmm sludge with 10W40.... Then I must have ceramic baking with 20W50?... Haa
2015/07/25, 23:07 - +44 7432 870840: Lol.
2015/07/25, 23:07 - SMARTCHOICE: So a change from 20W50 to 5w40 is the recommendation @Siena?
2015/07/25, 23:08 - +44 7432 870840: Correct.
2015/07/25, 23:08 - Sope: @Oga Siena I hail you. I use a W202 C230 Kompressor. 2000 model. M111 engine.
2015/07/25, 23:09 - SMARTCHOICE: Thanks noted.... Will do and keep you posted!
2015/07/25, 23:09 - Sope: I use a 5W/40 engine oil. Is it ok?
2015/07/25, 23:10 - +44 7432 870840: My father-in-law's W124 had 422,000 miles on the odometer, and still ran 5W-30. No need to top up the oil between services either - once a year.
2015/07/25, 23:10 - Sope: IMG-20150725-WA0042.jpg (file attached)
This is the engine oil I use for my Kompressor
2015/07/25, 23:10 - Sope: IMG-20150725-WA0043.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/25, 23:11 - SMARTCHOICE: @Siena is there any step or precautions to take before switching?
2015/07/25, 23:11 - +44 7432 870840: 5W-40 is okay. Just avoid the tar-like 20W-50. That is Black Death.
2015/07/25, 23:12 - SMARTCHOICE: Like engine washing chemicals to flush the residues of the old oil
Or just direct action
2015/07/25, 23:12 - +44 7432 870840: Apart from a flush, nothing else is required.
2015/07/25, 23:12 - SMARTCHOICE: What do you recommend for flushing Sir?
2015/07/25, 23:13 - SMARTCHOICE: That will not harm the oil seals?
2015/07/25, 23:15 - +44 7432 870840: You're going to think I'm crazy if I tell you...
2015/07/25, 23:15 - SMARTCHOICE: Trust me no!
2015/07/25, 23:15 - +44 7432 870840: DIESEL.
2015/07/25, 23:15 - SMARTCHOICE: How?
2015/07/25, 23:19 - +44 7432 870840: Oil drained, 4 litres of diesel added. Run engine at idle for 45 minutes. Drain, replace oil filter, fill with your new oil, done.
2015/07/25, 23:19 - SMARTCHOICE: Wow...
2015/07/25, 23:20 - SMARTCHOICE: Hope the low quality diesel here won't cause katakata
2015/07/25, 23:20 - +44 7432 870840: I've used this method for over 20 years.
2015/07/25, 23:20 - SMARTCHOICE: 45minutes?
2015/07/25, 23:21 - +44 7432 870840: Yes. This will also clean the inside of the engine. Very beneficial, especially in a very dirty engine, where oil changes have not been regular.
2015/07/25, 23:23 - SMARTCHOICE: Thanks Oga Siena
2015/07/25, 23:23 - Zadoc: @Ejiz,4 d XFT,check ds out: http://www.nairaland.com/520025/mercedes-benz-thread/73#28485005
2015/07/25, 23:23 - SMARTCHOICE: Will feed you back
2015/07/25, 23:23 - +44 7432 870840: No worries.
2015/07/25, 23:24 - SMARTCHOICE: But for injector cleaner periodically for fill up will xft work sir
2015/07/25, 23:25 - +44 7432 870840: I have no experience of XFT.
2015/07/25, 23:26 - SMARTCHOICE: Also seems our diesel is adulterated with petrol or kerosene... Hope it will be safe to run an engine on for 45minutes?
2015/07/25, 23:26 - SMARTCHOICE: OK @xft
2015/07/25, 23:27 - Lomomike: I don grab new tactical knock out for Kazeem
2015/07/25, 23:27 - Lomomike: Thanks SienA
2015/07/25, 23:27 - +44 7432 870840: It'll be fine. Some shops here do the same with paraffin.
2015/07/25, 23:27 - SMARTCHOICE: Ok
2015/07/25, 23:27 - SMARTCHOICE: But you prefer diesel?
2015/07/25, 23:27 - +44 7432 870840: Yes.
2015/07/25, 23:29 - +44 7432 870840: It's also widely used in washing engine parts during a rebuild. Pistons, rods, bearings etc.
2015/07/25, 23:29 - SMARTCHOICE: What kind of smoke should we expect during this 45minutes
2015/07/25, 23:29 - SMARTCHOICE: Ok
2015/07/25, 23:29 - +44 7432 870840: Oddly enough, none.
2015/07/25, 23:29 - SMARTCHOICE: 🙉
2015/07/25, 23:30 - +44 7432 870840: You'll only get smoke if you pour diesel into the fuel tank.
2015/07/25, 23:30 - SMARTCHOICE: Ok
2015/07/25, 23:31 - SMARTCHOICE: Wow thanks for your time Siena...
2015/07/25, 23:32 - D1: Thanks indeed sir
2015/07/25, 23:32 - D1: Just the challenge of getting that oil
2015/07/25, 23:32 - D1: In ado
2015/07/25, 23:32 - SMARTCHOICE: So there's nothing you can recommend for periodic fill ups to prevent those build ups on the injectors? Last question
2015/07/25, 23:32 - D1: And in ibadan
2015/07/25, 23:33 - SMARTCHOICE: Oil is available@ temmie
2015/07/25, 23:33 - SMARTCHOICE: May thinner@ Siena
2015/07/25, 23:34 - +44 7432 870840: Try looking for FORTE fuel and oil treatment.
2015/07/25, 23:34 - +44 7432 870840: They are separate additives.
2015/07/25, 23:34 - SMARTCHOICE: Oil treatment for fully synthetic?
2015/07/25, 23:35 - SMARTCHOICE: Forte fuel treatment ok
2015/07/25, 23:35 - +44 7432 870840: 5W-40.
2015/07/25, 23:36 - SMARTCHOICE: Total quartz 9000 so I'll need to add forte oil treatment?
2015/07/25, 23:36 - +44 7432 870840: What grade is it?
2015/07/25, 23:36 - SMARTCHOICE: 5W40
2015/07/25, 23:37 - SMARTCHOICE: Fully synthetic
2015/07/25, 23:37 - +44 7432 870840: Then no need.
2015/07/25, 23:37 - SMARTCHOICE: But forte fuel treatment for fuel.....recommended?
2015/07/25, 23:38 - +44 7432 870840: Yes.
2015/07/25, 23:38 - +44 7432 870840: Nigeria's bad fuel. Definitely.
2015/07/25, 23:39 - SMARTCHOICE: Thank you.
2015/07/25, 23:39 - SMARTCHOICE: Will give a feedback soon
2015/07/25, 23:40 - +44 7432 870840: No worries. If your engine is clean, a 15 minute idle will be enough.
2015/07/25, 23:40 - SMARTCHOICE: Am not sure it is...
2015/07/25, 23:40 - Danadam: Wow... Siena has said it all bout engine oil
2015/07/25, 23:41 - SMARTCHOICE: That means one can use the diesel technique to clean ones engine occasionally..
2015/07/25, 23:41 - +44 7432 870840: Yes.
2015/07/25, 23:42 - SMARTCHOICE: Wow all ghost students please let's appreciate Mr Siena....
2015/07/25, 23:43 - Pafestula: 👏👏
2015/07/25, 23:43 - Pafestula: ✔✔
2015/07/25, 23:43 - +44 7432 870840: Wow, thanks guys.
2015/07/25, 23:43 - D1: 👏
2015/07/25, 23:44 - Zadoc: 👏tnx 4 d knowledge imparted 2 us
2015/07/25, 23:44 - Pafestula: >=======>>
2015/07/25, 23:45 - Zadoc: @ Prof,welcome.
2015/07/25, 23:45 - Pafestula: Shoppy, how much u normally buy your oil
2015/07/25, 23:46 - Pafestula: Mr, Zodac thank you
2015/07/25, 23:47 - Pafestula: Smart am here fully.. Thank u for your cooperation, you finally forced me out from staff quarters to lecture room
2015/07/25, 23:47 - Cneo: Hi House
2015/07/25, 23:47 - Danadam: 👏👏👏
2015/07/25, 23:47 - Cneo: Busy day had to read a bunch
2015/07/25, 23:48 - SMARTCHOICE: Cneo read well o and be empowered
2015/07/25, 23:48 - Cneo: Siena can this your method be used to remove sludge from an engine?
2015/07/25, 23:48 - SMARTCHOICE: No more 20W-50 oil for my Benz
2015/07/25, 23:49 - Cneo: I'm done reading it, I always stick to fully synthetic same with shoppy
2015/07/25, 23:49 - SMARTCHOICE: Yes @Cneo that's the whole idea
2015/07/25, 23:49 - Pafestula: Haha, so you have been using visco 2000 @Smart
2015/07/25, 23:49 - Cneo: Same oil thanks to odubee he is a distributor of rhymco oil so I guess you can order through him
2015/07/25, 23:50 - SMARTCHOICE: Nooo
2015/07/25, 23:50 - Cneo: Cisco 2000 reminds me of my Camry days lol
2015/07/25, 23:50 - SMARTCHOICE: Odubee is indicted and Nuel
2015/07/25, 23:50 - Cneo: Visco
2015/07/25, 23:50 - Pafestula: Which one are you using@ Smart
2015/07/25, 23:50 - SMARTCHOICE: No contributions from them at all
2015/07/25, 23:51 - SMARTCHOICE: Total
2015/07/25, 23:51 - Cneo: Those guys can be too busy anyways I can help anyone get the oil and ship out
2015/07/25, 23:51 - Pafestula: Total quartz 5000
2015/07/25, 23:51 - Pafestula: How much and how many litres @ meat
2015/07/25, 23:52 - SMARTCHOICE: Shouldn't be too busy to pop in once a while
2015/07/25, 23:52 - Cneo: I had a question for Siena, he mentioned 4 litres but the M112 engines requires 8litres of oil
2015/07/25, 23:52 - Viazi: 👏👏👏
2015/07/25, 23:52 - Viazi: @ Sienna, thanks I was actually jotting down points
2015/07/25, 23:52 - Cneo: True @smart a little even on Sundays at least or odd hours
2015/07/25, 23:52 - SMARTCHOICE: Yes!
2015/07/25, 23:52 - Cneo: I think the oil goes for 6500 I really can't remember
2015/07/25, 23:53 - Cneo: Shoppy how much be the oil?
2015/07/25, 23:53 - SMARTCHOICE: Well we'll buy oil from Odubee at a drastic discount only!
2015/07/25, 23:53 - Viazi: 😀
2015/07/25, 23:54 - Cneo: I will be there on Monday
2015/07/25, 23:54 - Pafestula: Na Shoppy you dey ask as if he is an active member, ask full time active member, not part time like him
2015/07/25, 23:54 - SMARTCHOICE: For his sins
2015/07/25, 23:54 - Cneo: Will get the prices
2015/07/25, 23:54 - Cneo: Lol
2015/07/25, 23:54 - Cneo: Shoppy had troubles with his phone before
2015/07/25, 23:54 - SMARTCHOICE: 💤💤💤💤💤💤💤
2015/07/25, 23:55 - Pafestula: The keg is how many liters
2015/07/25, 23:55 - Pafestula: Even till now
2015/07/25, 23:56 - Cneo: 4litres
2015/07/25, 23:56 - Pafestula: I need 2
2015/07/25, 23:57 - Pafestula: And are you sure this is fully synthetic oil for that price?
2015/07/25, 23:57 - Cneo: I will confirm oh
2015/07/25, 23:58 - Cneo: Abeg tomorrow will ping him after church
2015/07/25, 23:58 - Pafestula: Make person no go buy anointing oil in the name of looking for cheap sythentic
2015/07/25, 23:58 - Danadam: Quartz 9000 5W40 is our best bet
2015/07/25, 23:58 - Pafestula: Same here @ Adam
2015/07/25, 23:58 - Sope: 7500 @ cne & pafestula
2015/07/25, 23:59 - Cneo: Google the oil they are pretty renowned and I was there one day their agent came around and gave us a lecture about their API rating and so on
2015/07/25, 23:59 - Cneo: Been working for me my car would be a year this month and I have serviced it twice
2015/07/25, 23:59 - Pafestula: Your car is using how many litres@ Shppy and meat
2015/07/26, 00:00 - Cneo: My car takes almost 8 litres infact 8 litres
2015/07/26, 00:00 - Sope: 6 litres
2015/07/26, 00:00 - Pafestula: My A Class 6litres
2015/07/26, 00:01 - SMARTCHOICE: Quartz 9000 makes more sense
2015/07/26, 00:01 - Pafestula: How much is the current price of Total quartz 9000 in Nigeria now
2015/07/26, 00:02 - SMARTCHOICE: 8k 5
2015/07/26, 00:02 - Danadam: 8 litres is too much
2015/07/26, 00:02 - Pafestula: 8500 and 7500... I will stick to my total jeje
2015/07/26, 00:03 - Danadam: You're over filling the engine oil
2015/07/26, 00:03 - Danadam: Note... you will need 2 gallons
2015/07/26, 00:03 - Pafestula: Adam some engine are like that
2015/07/26, 00:03 - Danadam: That's 17k
2015/07/26, 00:04 - Danadam: 8 litres? Only a V8 should take that much
2015/07/26, 00:04 - Sope: Well I've used the engine oil for servicing twice. No oil shortage or any wahala
2015/07/26, 00:04 - Cneo: The V6 engines takes more than 6 litres I'm sure of that, Odubee has the service Guage which he use to Guage the oil
2015/07/26, 00:05 - Danadam: What's your engine size?
2015/07/26, 00:05 - Cneo: 2 gallons is 8 litres
2015/07/26, 00:05 - Sope: I service my Kompressor twice a year
2015/07/26, 00:05 - Cneo: I drive a C320
2015/07/26, 00:05 - Danadam: 2 gallons... but you shouldn't use all
2015/07/26, 00:06 - Danadam: Quartz 9000 isn't available in 1 litre so u need 2 gallons
2015/07/26, 00:06 - Cneo: The one left is always very small not up to a litre I guess
2015/07/26, 00:07 - Danadam: I've posted the recommended litres of each w203 engine here previously
2015/07/26, 00:07 - Pafestula: U use that one for you Gen
2015/07/26, 00:07 - Danadam: Or keep it in case of top up... that's what I do
2015/07/26, 00:11 - Danadam: IMG-20150726-WA0000.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/26, 00:11 - Danadam: Your engine shouldn't take more than 7.5 litres
2015/07/26, 00:12 - Cneo: Not bad the one left isn't up to a litre
2015/07/26, 00:12 - Cneo: Means I'm safe
2015/07/26, 00:12 - Cneo: Thanks let me save the pics
2015/07/26, 00:12 - Danadam: I follow my manual religiously
2015/07/26, 00:13 - Cneo: Sadly mine didn't come with one
2015/07/26, 00:14 - Danadam: Hard luck😊
2015/07/26, 00:15 - Cneo: Too bad
2015/07/26, 00:15 - Danadam: My previous benz had a manual. I'm not buying any benz without a manual
2015/07/26, 00:16 - Danadam: There are alot of things you ordinarily wouldn't know bout a benz without the manual
2015/07/26, 00:16 - D1: The problem with the manual is reading
2015/07/26, 00:16 - D1: Mine came in German language
2015/07/26, 00:16 - Danadam: I've read every single page
2015/07/26, 00:16 - Danadam: Mine is English
2015/07/26, 00:16 - D1: Lucky u
2015/07/26, 00:17 - Danadam: 😊
2015/07/26, 00:21 - Zadoc: Cant a single manual, say 4 a W202 C280 serve similar rides in d same W202 class(C180,200 etc)?
2015/07/26, 00:25 - Cneo: Yes Zadoc
2015/07/26, 00:26 - Zadoc: K,grt
2015/07/26, 00:27 - Cneo: The manual is shared BTW all trims, some stuffs on the manual won't be in your car depending on the trim
2015/07/26, 00:28 - Danadam: Correct
2015/07/26, 00:28 - Danadam: E.g. my manual covers all W203 models
2015/07/26, 00:29 - Cneo: Cool
2015/07/26, 00:29 - Cneo: Good night Adams
2015/07/26, 00:30 - Danadam: Good nyt bro
2015/07/26, 05:13 - +234 803 391 8271: Morning all ,just finished reading messages posted from 5pm yday
2015/07/26, 05:16 - +234 803 391 8271: Nice one from siena,we appreciate your impact here.I just want to point out that everyone missed out one bit of information.I recalled asking three days ago if anyone uses Castrol oil on their benz.I think that oil is the best around and can be sourced locally at konga
2015/07/26, 05:35 - SMARTCHOICE: Nedu be careful what makes you think castrol oil in Nigeria is same in Europe? Look at them carefully.... This is a country where there's no quality control!
2015/07/26, 05:41 - +234 803 391 8271: They fake everything in this country.Even human beings u see on the road walking,some are fake.That doesn't mean there are no original.
2015/07/26, 05:51 - SMARTCHOICE: Where's the original
2015/07/26, 05:51 - SMARTCHOICE: That you can be held responsible for?
2015/07/26, 05:57 - +234 803 391 8271: 😃Abeg leave me smartchoice.If this was Friday would have asked one automobile w/shop owner in oregun where he sources from,that's what he uses on benz,bmw,audi etc.
2015/07/26, 05:58 - +234 803 391 8271: Person wey close eyes because hin no wan see bad people,when good person pass hin no go see am too
2015/07/26, 06:13 - SMARTCHOICE: I need you to be held responsible for oil recommended by you 😀😀
2015/07/26, 06:13 - SMARTCHOICE: @nedu
2015/07/26, 06:14 - Yunusa: Good morning 3
2015/07/26, 06:14 - Yunusa: House
2015/07/26, 06:15 - SMARTCHOICE: Yunusa morning
2015/07/26, 06:15 - Kewt: Morning all. Had to catch up with chats since yester nite. Painfully though, I missed Siena.
2015/07/26, 06:16 - Yunusa: @smartchoice thank u Sir
2015/07/26, 06:16 - SMARTCHOICE: Tope the records are there
2015/07/26, 06:16 - +234 803 391 8271: I sure say if na me mention diesel inside engine you for don comot me from group😃
2015/07/26, 06:16 - Yunusa: Mr Tope hope u re good
2015/07/26, 06:16 - SMARTCHOICE: Synthetic oil is it!
2015/07/26, 06:17 - Kewt: Yes boss @Yunusa.
2015/07/26, 06:17 - SMARTCHOICE: KIA KIA @ nedu
2015/07/26, 06:17 - SMARTCHOICE: 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨
2015/07/26, 06:17 - +234 803 391 8271: U see,lol
2015/07/26, 06:18 - Yunusa: 😊
2015/07/26, 06:18 - SMARTCHOICE: But even with Siena he convinced based on his reputation and over twenty years experience
2015/07/26, 06:18 - SMARTCHOICE: But nedu that's not enough to remove you
2015/07/26, 06:19 - Kewt: 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍 for Siena, Mike, Prof Festo, Smartchoice and everyone who has made knowledge sharing on this platform worthwhile
2015/07/26, 06:21 - +234 803 391 8271: Today is my birthday
2015/07/26, 06:21 - SMARTCHOICE: Haa hbd
2015/07/26, 06:21 - SMARTCHOICE: Llnp
2015/07/26, 06:22 - Yunusa: Happy birthday LLP
2015/07/26, 06:22 - SMARTCHOICE: More Benz in your cabal
2015/07/26, 06:23 - Kewt: Happy birthday Nedu. Best wishes.
2015/07/26, 06:25 - +234 803 391 8271: Thanks guys
2015/07/26, 06:25 - Kewt: Yesterday's discussion was really awesome. I gained a lot but regrettably, I cudn't ask questions as I wud av wanted to. We shd probably be alerted in advance when pple like Siena will pop up so dat preparations can be made
2015/07/26, 06:26 - SMARTCHOICE: 🎁🍷
2015/07/26, 06:26 - Kewt: And 🙏👏👍 also to ghost mode members who regardless of time and season, never contribute to any discussion in d house except when their vehicle is faulty....
They also missed d unique opportunity for change as typical of dem, ignored Smartchoice request to appreciate Siena
2015/07/26, 06:27 - Kewt: Several questions on my mind now.....
2015/07/26, 06:31 - SMARTCHOICE: No alert like that may happen.... Lomomike is also versed he was implored to contribute here.... He came and did brilliantly.... Siena was also contacted to assist he gracefully obliged.... Let's appreciate all contributors especially the initiator festo... I only came on as he's on sabbatical...with Mike and Siena.
2015/07/26, 06:32 - SMARTCHOICE: Hello all we need to make a decision on the in depth knowledgeable members who have refused to participate here.... Senate President.... Admin Aikerism over to you
2015/07/26, 06:39 - Kewt: Again..... 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍 for Siena, Mike, Prof Festo, Smartchoice and everyone who has made knowledge sharing on this platform worthwhile
2015/07/26, 06:41 - Pafestula: >=========>> in
Good morning Benz Republic of Nigeria
2015/07/26, 06:42 - +234 803 491 1766: Good mornin all
2015/07/26, 06:44 - Pafestula: I'm on sabbatical leave, but by the power vested on me, I must attend to sensitive issues on our forum and sacrifice my leave.
2015/07/26, 06:45 - +234 803 491 1766: Bravo prof festo
2015/07/26, 06:45 - Pafestula: Today we are going to vote as usual, and you all know I love that Democratic system, here no autocracy.
2015/07/26, 06:49 - Pafestula: As we all know the removal of inactive members/dormant members on this forum has been being prayed and granted by this Benz republic with constitutional support.
2015/07/26, 06:50 - Pafestula: I hereby present the case of Odubee and (Ife) Nuel. No nepotism or whatsoever is allowed on this forum
2015/07/26, 06:56 - Pafestula: We brought them here with the intent of representing Siena and as to severs as Stuttgart eyes in the Federal Republic of Nigeria Benz Forum, but they both failed their primary assignment given to them by Benz company based on the reason best known to them respectively.
2015/07/26, 06:56 - Pafestula: We all know the slogan here is how well, not how far, if we are just 10 active members.. We are good to go..
2015/07/26, 06:57 - Pafestula: The vote starts by 7am-10am Nigerian time.
2015/07/26, 06:58 - Yunusa: 🔨
2015/07/26, 06:59 - Pafestula: To remove Odubee and Ife 👍
To spare them and let them continue be dormant here with their skills 🙏
2015/07/26, 07:00 - Pafestula: The voting commence forthwith @ all
2015/07/26, 07:01 - Yunusa: If am indifference, what should do Sir
2015/07/26, 07:02 - Lomomike: If one is versed in a an area of life, and he doesn't give add value to humanity, its a waste
2015/07/26, 07:02 - Yunusa: 👍🙏
2015/07/26, 07:02 - Lomomike: If one is rich n people aren't feeling his blessings, its a waste
2015/07/26, 07:03 - Lomomike: IMHO, tak them out
2015/07/26, 07:03 - Lomomike: Take them out
2015/07/26, 07:03 - Pafestula: 🔨🔨🔨@ Yinusa
2015/07/26, 07:03 - Pafestula: If am indifference, what should do Sir
🔝
Stay at home don't go out to vote. Thanks
2015/07/26, 07:03 - Yunusa: 🙆
2015/07/26, 07:04 - Yunusa: 😃
2015/07/26, 07:04 - Lomomike: Are they any better than. Siena who with over 25yrs of experience still humbly accepts to impart knowledge and blessing?
2015/07/26, 07:04 - Pafestula: **The vote starts by 7am-12pm Nigerian time.
2015/07/26, 07:05 - Pafestula: Voting in progress now....
2015/07/26, 07:05 - Pafestula: Spot on Mike..
2015/07/26, 07:05 - Lomomike: Their actions are like you guys shouldn't know jack abt ur cars so u'd be slaves to kazeems
2015/07/26, 07:06 - Lomomike: Thank God I ditched kazeem
2015/07/26, 07:06 - Lomomike: I fix my cars myself
2015/07/26, 07:07 - Pafestula: So we can be patronizing them.. Then start mentioning auto spare part the would sound like incantations to us as we are total ignorant of cars.
2015/07/26, 07:07 - Pafestula: Cast your vote@ Mike
2015/07/26, 07:08 - Pafestula: 👍
2015/07/26, 07:08 - Pafestula: Here is mine...👍
2015/07/26, 07:09 - Lomomike: I have
2015/07/26, 07:09 - Lomomike: 👍
2015/07/26, 07:09 - Pafestula: ✔
2015/07/26, 07:09 - Pafestula: I'm sure Oga smart is coming to cast his vote also
2015/07/26, 07:10 - Pafestula: Aikerism wake up and come here
2015/07/26, 07:11 - +234 803 491 1766: @ festo dnt u fink it will b beta 2 summon 'em 1st. So dey can tell us y dey hv been inactive
2015/07/26, 07:12 - +234 803 491 1766: if dey dont show up en we can move a motion 4 their eviction
2015/07/26, 07:12 - Yunusa: @ejiz 👊
2015/07/26, 07:13 - Pafestula: If they are active member, they would have read it that the Benz forum is frown at their inactivity, we spoke on this many times, they didn't read all our forum laws as they are not following
2015/07/26, 07:14 - Pafestula: Pls cast your vote @ all, discussions after election. Thanks
2015/07/26, 07:14 - Pafestula: 🔨🔨🔨🔨
2015/07/26, 07:14 - Kewt: @Yunusa, u no go kill person here wit laff. Which one be indifference again?😃😃😃 for 👍🙏
2015/07/26, 07:15 - Yunusa: 😃
2015/07/26, 07:15 - Crestweon: 👍
2015/07/26, 07:15 - Kewt: Dozieeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2015/07/26, 07:16 - Crestweon: Tope good morning
2015/07/26, 07:16 - Kewt: Morning boss
2015/07/26, 07:16 - Crestweon: I have voted o
2015/07/26, 07:16 - Pafestula: ✔
2015/07/26, 07:16 - Crestweon: Even though I don't understand what I am voting for
2015/07/26, 07:17 - Kewt: 😃😃😃@Dozie
2015/07/26, 07:17 - +234 803 491 1766: Lol @ Dozie. U c wat im tlkin abt
2015/07/26, 07:18 - Pafestula: Tope, Dozie, Ejiz, last warning! Thanks
2015/07/26, 07:18 - Pafestula: 🔨
2015/07/26, 07:18 - Pafestula: Pls cast your vote @ all, discussions after election. Thanks
2015/07/26, 07:19 - Crestweon: Amen o @festo
2015/07/26, 07:19 - Camaro: Serendipitously, I have to be truthful that I have learnt a lot from Siena. A visit professor from UK.
2015/07/26, 07:20 - +234 803 491 1766: 👍🙏. "indifference" in yunusa's voice
2015/07/26, 07:23 - Camaro: 👍
2015/07/26, 07:24 - Kewt: 👍
2015/07/26, 07:39 - SMARTCHOICE: Please we have members who are deeply knowledgeable about Mercedes and also educated.... Hence their membership to assist the forum ...however the forum has not been feeling their impact rather Mr Siena has been more of assistance even though he drops in occasionally.... Hence the vote to decide whether to keep them in or not...that of course will be after hearing from them!
2015/07/26, 07:39 - Bode I: 🙏
2015/07/26, 07:40 - +234 803 491 1766: Smart 4 senate president
2015/07/26, 07:42 - Bode I: Let hear from them, can we ask someone who is close to them to chat privately with them?
2015/07/26, 07:42 - SMARTCHOICE: Nope I can't ...I shouldn't make laws and also be implementing for fairness thanks please cooperate with Mr festo
2015/07/26, 07:42 - SMARTCHOICE: I will after the vote
2015/07/26, 07:43 - SMARTCHOICE: They will come to give their views
2015/07/26, 07:44 - Kewt: Oga Smartchoice ain't you voting?
2015/07/26, 07:44 - Camaro: They have been given some time to appear before the court and speak for themselves
2015/07/26, 07:44 - Pafestula: Question, doesn't it mean Ife and Odubee has not being using whatsapp appnto communicate with family and friends?
2015/07/26, 07:44 - Pafestula: *Whatsapp app to communicate
2015/07/26, 07:45 - Pafestula: Ife Nuel already gave his reason that " He is always busy due to the nature of his job"
2015/07/26, 07:45 - Pafestula: Odubee didn't even speak at all
2015/07/26, 07:46 - Pafestula: Bigmeat is a closer friend of Odubee, kindly tell us his own defence too@ Bigmeat
2015/07/26, 07:47 - D1: I move a motion for the suspension of votes till later in the day
2015/07/26, 07:47 - D1: People will go to church
2015/07/26, 07:47 - D1: And may not be in the house
2015/07/26, 07:47 - Pafestula: They have been given some time to appear before the court and speak for themselves
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Seconded
2015/07/26, 07:47 - D1: Voting on sunday and on Friday at jumat time is prejudiced
2015/07/26, 07:48 - +234 803 461 4675: Hmm
2015/07/26, 07:49 - SMARTCHOICE: Till twelve
2015/07/26, 07:50 - D1: There are churches that close after 1
2015/07/26, 07:50 - +234 803 461 4675: Hmm
2015/07/26, 07:50 - +234 803 461 4675: Mine closes @ 4
2015/07/26, 07:50 - +234 803 461 4675: From 8
2015/07/26, 07:53 - Kewt: @Temi, vote casting takes less than a fraction of a second. And remember d choice of voting is solely based on d expediency of the moment. The issue came up today and must be treated today. Sadly it falls on a Sunday! It can fall on any other day as well. Religion and don't mix with logic
2015/07/26, 07:54 - D1: @ Tope, that's were I disagree
2015/07/26, 07:54 - +234 803 391 8271: Make i follow elder Bode 🙏
2015/07/26, 07:54 - SMARTCHOICE: Abiola you kill Jesus?
2015/07/26, 07:54 - Nuel: Happy Benz Sunday house
2015/07/26, 07:54 - +234 803 391 8271: 🙏
2015/07/26, 07:54 - +234 803 391 8271: Ife appear like spirit
2015/07/26, 07:54 - D1: Elections are best, in the first place, if members are notified ahead of time
2015/07/26, 07:55 - D1: Second, addressing it today can still accommodate later in the evening
2015/07/26, 07:55 - SMARTCHOICE: Great Nuel is here on invitation please festo do the needful
2015/07/26, 07:55 - D1: Imagine having to vote on moday morning
2015/07/26, 07:56 - D1: @ Smartchoice, I thought Festo says there's not autocracy?
2015/07/26, 07:56 - D1: Part of democracy is the granting of voice for debate
2015/07/26, 07:56 - Pafestula: @Temi, vote casting takes less than a fraction of a second. And remember d choice of voting is solely based on d expediency of the moment. The issue came up today and must be treated today. Sadly it falls on a Sunday! It can fall on any other day as well. Religion and don't mix with logic
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He is only trying to be a religion fanatics, we all read the Bible and knows better, this period is using to type is enough to cast 200 votes
2015/07/26, 07:57 - Nuel: Please what are we upto, I got about 1000 plus unread messages
2015/07/26, 07:58 - Kewt: OK @Temi. Ur points are noted and ur position is respected...
2015/07/26, 07:58 - SMARTCHOICE: Sir @ temmie we are not discussing politics now... Please give horza/Nuel chance to speak for himself
2015/07/26, 07:58 - SMARTCHOICE: Please we have members who are deeply knowledgeable about Mercedes and also educated.... Hence their membership to assist the forum ...however the forum has not been feeling their impact rather Mr Siena has been more of assistance even though he drops in occasionally.... Hence the vote to decide whether to keep them in or not...that of course will be after hearing from them!
2015/07/26, 07:59 - SMARTCHOICE: @Nuel
2015/07/26, 07:59 - Pafestula: Good morning Mr. Ife, we summon you to this wonderful forum
2015/07/26, 07:59 - Nuel: I can't go through it for now due to the invitation. Can any1 help
2015/07/26, 07:59 - D1: My problem is not voting. It has to do with allowing a fairchance for everyone to vote
2015/07/26, 07:59 - D1: Democratic system should allow voices of dissent
2015/07/26, 07:59 - D1: I'm a philosopher by the way
2015/07/26, 07:59 - D1: @ Festo
2015/07/26, 08:00 - Nuel: Hnmmm
2015/07/26, 08:00 - D1: @ smart
2015/07/26, 08:01 - D1: I think there's a contradiction in what u propose.
2015/07/26, 08:01 - Pafestula: Pls let's give Ife chance to speak @ all
2015/07/26, 08:01 - D1: Please we have members who are deeply knowledgeable about Mercedes and also educated.... Hence their membership to assist the forum ...however the forum has not been feeling their impact rather Mr Siena has been more of assistance even though he drops in occasionally.... Hence the vote to decide whether to keep them in or not...that of course will be after hearing from them!
2015/07/26, 08:01 - Kewt: @Temi.. Not everyone votes in an election.
2015/07/26, 08:01 - D1: According to u that will be after hearing from them
2015/07/26, 08:01 - Pafestula: Na una say make we give them chance to explain and express the reason for their inactivity of Benz forum, so let him speak @ all. Thanks
2015/07/26, 08:02 - D1: What are we voting for if we haven't even heard from them. We are putting the cart before the horse. That supports my proposal for postponement of election
2015/07/26, 08:03 - D1: @ Tope. Yes, not everyone votes during election but everyone must ahve a chance to vote. That's why election days are not on Christmas or ileya days
2015/07/26, 08:03 - Nuel: I'm a very busy guy, due to my profession , if anyone needs my assistant in this forum. I'll have no reason to resist
2015/07/26, 08:04 - Pafestula: Is that all@ Ife?
2015/07/26, 08:06 - Pafestula: Ife Nuel already gave his reason that " He is always busy due to the nature of his job"
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Ife I already told them your usual reply to that allegations, cos we chat in private many times
2015/07/26, 08:06 - D1: There's no Ife in this chat room
2015/07/26, 08:07 - D1: Can we please use names appearing on the display so we can followup on the chat
2015/07/26, 08:08 - Pafestula: Ife are you there? Hellooo
2015/07/26, 08:09 - D1: Who is Ife now?
2015/07/26, 08:09 - D1: What we have is Horzacious Fellowinner
2015/07/26, 08:10 - Nuel: I'm here sir
2015/07/26, 08:10 - Pafestula: Now @ all that suggested we hear from him first, hope una don hear again now from him life and direct.???
2015/07/26, 08:10 - SMARTCHOICE: Please floor for only horza now
2015/07/26, 08:11 - Pafestula: 😷😷😷
2015/07/26, 08:12 - SMARTCHOICE: Horza the forum needs more of your presence
2015/07/26, 08:12 - SMARTCHOICE: To gain from your depth of knowledge
2015/07/26, 08:13 - SMARTCHOICE: Can you ascribe a time for the forum?
2015/07/26, 08:14 - Nuel: Kk, thanks.. Bt don't expect me every time
2015/07/26, 08:15 - SMARTCHOICE: Siena gave a thought provoking session yesterday from the UK bringing his over twenty years technical experience as a automobile Mech
2015/07/26, 08:15 - Nuel: Anyway, I'll turn up
2015/07/26, 08:15 - Camaro: Horza we will appreciate it if you spare an hour with us every Sunday since your week days are always occupied
2015/07/26, 08:16 - SMARTCHOICE: Not every time... Say Sunday evenings.... Tuesday evenings just a time that members who can't access you directly can still gain from you remotely
2015/07/26, 08:17 - SMARTCHOICE: What do you say sir?
2015/07/26, 08:17 - SMARTCHOICE: @horza
2015/07/26, 08:17 - Camaro: No replies
2015/07/26, 08:19 - Pafestula: Mike come out from ghost mode pls
2015/07/26, 08:20 - Camaro: Horza give us a time that will be convenient for you and we
2015/07/26, 08:22 - Nuel: K
2015/07/26, 08:23 - Camaro: You haven't said anything by the letter k
2015/07/26, 08:23 - Camaro: We demand more like a sentence
2015/07/26, 08:26 - Nuel: I'll make sure I have the forum 1 hour every day by God's grace and that will be from 9pm to 10pm everyday sporadically
2015/07/26, 08:27 - Pafestula: Amen
2015/07/26, 08:28 - Camaro: Is everyday going to be convenient for you considering the nature of your job? Making a promise is one and fulfilling it is another?
2015/07/26, 08:28 - D1: Sir Horcazious
2015/07/26, 08:30 - D1: We do not ask for much. We need you peep in once a while, once a week, once in two, or even once in a month when we can have time to learn at the feet of professor of benz like you
2015/07/26, 08:30 - D1: That's all we ask
2015/07/26, 08:30 - Camaro: Second
2015/07/26, 08:31 - D1: We understand the nature of your job and how demanding it is. But then the wealth of knowledge at your disposal that will safe us from being at the mercy of kazeems is what is important
2015/07/26, 08:31 - Pafestula: Now Ife's case is solved right?
2015/07/26, 08:31 - D1: An hour a day might b too much for u
2015/07/26, 08:32 - Pafestula: Now what of Odubee?
2015/07/26, 08:32 - SMARTCHOICE: Horza has made a covenant with us...let's hold him starting from today! Thanks all
2015/07/26, 08:32 - D1: Sir Smart
2015/07/26, 08:32 - D1: We should be realistic o
2015/07/26, 08:32 - D1: Can he afford what he has promised?
2015/07/26, 08:33 - SMARTCHOICE: Let me call Odubee out
2015/07/26, 08:33 - SMARTCHOICE: D1 no one forced him
2015/07/26, 08:33 - Pafestula: Not our business, he was not under duress when he made his promise, so no one should border over that
2015/07/26, 08:35 - Nuel: Thanks at every 1, i hail dos Dat summoned me too
2015/07/26, 08:35 - Nuel: 😀
2015/07/26, 08:35 - Camaro: Thanks for your time ife
2015/07/26, 08:37 - Odubee: Morning people
2015/07/26, 08:37 - Brightcom: Nyc one
2015/07/26, 08:37 - Nuel: I hail festo, dele, smart choice, engr kells, temmedee, 1 love kids d forum
2015/07/26, 08:37 - +234 703 799 0298: Morning house
2015/07/26, 08:39 - Odubee: Okay so it's important I devote something to the group
2015/07/26, 08:39 - Brightcom: Are u asking @Autodoc?
2015/07/26, 08:40 - Odubee: @cashmoney.. no am not
2015/07/26, 08:41 - Brightcom: Beta
2015/07/26, 08:41 - SMARTCHOICE: Odubee is here
2015/07/26, 08:41 - Odubee: But usually if anyone pings me outside the group, I can easily respond
2015/07/26, 08:41 - Odubee: Then come on the group
2015/07/26, 08:41 - Odubee: Keeping up can be tasking esp with soiled hands
2015/07/26, 08:41 - SMARTCHOICE: At emergencies
2015/07/26, 08:42 - Odubee: A text, call or message outside the group will get my attention faster
2015/07/26, 08:42 - SMARTCHOICE: But most pple don't even know you
2015/07/26, 08:43 - SMARTCHOICE: We need a time from you... Occasionally to take members through pertinent Benz issues....
2015/07/26, 08:43 - Odubee: Should I introduce my self sir
2015/07/26, 08:43 - SMARTCHOICE: Which maybe determined by you
2015/07/26, 08:44 - Camaro: No
2015/07/26, 08:44 - Camaro: We have noticed your presence today
2015/07/26, 08:44 - Pafestula: Following...
2015/07/26, 08:44 - Camaro: Can we borrow some hours from you on Sunday's?
2015/07/26, 08:45 - Odubee: 7am to 8am, 6pm- 7pm... daily except sundays
2015/07/26, 08:45 - SMARTCHOICE: Odubee you can introduce yourself and give us times that you'll be available to assist the group
2015/07/26, 08:45 - Odubee: Sundays is usually family time so it'll be difficult to give a time frame
2015/07/26, 08:46 - Odubee: But I'd announce my availability once free
2015/07/26, 08:46 - SMARTCHOICE: And during those times take members through aspects of Mercedes maintenance
2015/07/26, 08:46 - SMARTCHOICE: Fuel system
2015/07/26, 08:46 - SMARTCHOICE: Oil
2015/07/26, 08:46 - SMARTCHOICE: Tranny
2015/07/26, 08:47 - SMARTCHOICE: From your experience
2015/07/26, 08:47 - Odubee: Any questions asked will be treated accordingly
2015/07/26, 08:47 - SMARTCHOICE: Any topic at all you wish to discuss
2015/07/26, 08:47 - Pafestula: Now am happy
2015/07/26, 08:47 - SMARTCHOICE: Not just waiting for questions
2015/07/26, 08:48 - Pafestula: No more election.
2015/07/26, 08:48 - SMARTCHOICE: Even when there are no questions Sir
2015/07/26, 08:48 - Odubee: But if anyone has any emergency, the person can reach me outside the group
2015/07/26, 08:48 - SMARTCHOICE: Ok
2015/07/26, 08:49 - SMARTCHOICE: A week with you should clear a lot of Benz falsely held beliefs
2015/07/26, 08:49 - Odubee: No troubles sir
2015/07/26, 08:49 - SMARTCHOICE: Odubee one last thing what's the forum price for your oil?
2015/07/26, 08:50 - SMARTCHOICE: And how is it compared to quartz 9000?
2015/07/26, 08:51 - Odubee: First about the oil
2015/07/26, 08:52 - Odubee: I use full sysnthetic oil which is 5w- 40 and semi synthetic which is 10w- 40
2015/07/26, 08:52 - Odubee: Those are the two oil grades I use
2015/07/26, 08:53 - Odubee: I realised that the semi synthetic give better protection, engine performance and longevity compared to the mineral oils
2015/07/26, 08:53 - Odubee: I don't have any issues with other brands asides the fact that I have been a victim of adulterated oil from a well known brand
2015/07/26, 08:53 - SMARTCHOICE: More than synthetic?
2015/07/26, 08:54 - Odubee: Nothing compares to full synthetic
2015/07/26, 08:55 - SMARTCHOICE: Okay
2015/07/26, 08:55 - Odubee: But for those who can't afford the full synthetic, I'd recommend the semi
2015/07/26, 08:55 - Odubee: As opposed to regular mineral oil
2015/07/26, 08:55 - Camaro: What are the best synthetic oil you can recommend
2015/07/26, 08:55 - SMARTCHOICE: Forum price
2015/07/26, 08:56 - Brightcom: Can someone using the mineral oil like u said change to semi without having negative impact on d engine?
2015/07/26, 08:56 - Odubee: Don't get it wrong Mr Kells, full synthetic oil is great irrespective of brand... my only major challenge in Naija has been adulteration
2015/07/26, 08:57 - SMARTCHOICE: What's forum price
2015/07/26, 08:57 - Odubee: @cashmoney yes you can
2015/07/26, 08:57 - Brightcom: Okay
2015/07/26, 08:57 - Camaro: Exactly that was why I ask, so that we won't be scared of getting the adulterated products
2015/07/26, 08:58 - Odubee: A very long time ago, i Serviced a 2010 GL550 will Mobil 1 and it started smoking 2 days later
2015/07/26, 08:59 - Odubee: I went to the filling station I bought it from to express my displeasure and the manage told me straight up
2015/07/26, 08:59 - Odubee: That's one of the reasons they hoard it, so it unavailable at set times
2015/07/26, 08:59 - Odubee: Because thier attendants are the ones responsible for the runs
2015/07/26, 09:00 - Odubee: Even the empty keg of mobil 1 is sold for 250 naira
2015/07/26, 09:00 - Odubee: Just to let you know it's hot cake
2015/07/26, 09:00 - Odubee: Unfortunately only a lab test can verify fake from original
2015/07/26, 09:01 - Odubee: But in terms of looks, viscosity and all, they are an exact macth
2015/07/26, 09:01 - Odubee: Semi synthetic is 5k for 5 litres keg
2015/07/26, 09:02 - Odubee: I'll do the full synthetic 6,900 group price
2015/07/26, 09:02 - Odubee: The full synthetic is 4 litres
2015/07/26, 09:02 - Odubee: Exchange rate is also affecting prices but we are trying to be as stable as possible
2015/07/26, 09:02 - Camaro: I will stick to total 9000
2015/07/26, 09:03 - Odubee: As long as you can certify that you are getting original oil, you can stick to your brands
2015/07/26, 09:04 - Odubee: The only reason why mercedes advocates mobil is because mobil is a major sponsor of thier formula 1 race team
2015/07/26, 09:04 - Odubee: Same goes for Castrol Oil to bmw and land rover
2015/07/26, 09:04 - Pafestula: U are right@ Doc
2015/07/26, 09:04 - Camaro: Yes
2015/07/26, 09:05 - D1: It's getting clearer now
2015/07/26, 09:05 - Camaro: CAn we see your product
2015/07/26, 09:06 - Odubee: Seeing mobil once you open you bonnet/Hood brain washes straight to believing it's either mobil or nothing
2015/07/26, 09:08 - SMARTCHOICE: Is castrol oil low ash available in Lagos?
2015/07/26, 09:09 - Odubee: IMG-20150726-WA0001.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/26, 09:09 - Odubee: They have a wide range of products
2015/07/26, 09:10 - Odubee: It is important to not that mineral oils are not bad, but if you are using a car older than 1998, using full synthetic seems like a waste
2015/07/26, 09:10 - SMARTCHOICE: Y?
2015/07/26, 09:10 - Odubee: Because most older engines worked well with heavier oils
2015/07/26, 09:11 - Camaro: Come again
2015/07/26, 09:12 - Odubee: Newer millennium engines are more refined and complex so the need technologically enhanced oils, thus the full synthetic of this time
2015/07/26, 09:12 - Odubee: You can't compare full synthetic grade of 2014 to full synthetic of 1990
2015/07/26, 09:12 - Odubee: As engines improved, so did the quality and grade of oils to match up performance
2015/07/26, 09:13 - SMARTCHOICE: Well my car is 1996 and am gonna rock full synthetic all day way
2015/07/26, 09:13 - Odubee: Never said it was a bad thing
2015/07/26, 09:13 - Odubee: But am making you understand that older engines can cope perfectly
2015/07/26, 09:14 - Odubee: But heavier oils on newer engines isn't a good blend
2015/07/26, 09:14 - SMARTCHOICE: But Odubee I need to decarbonize my combustion chambers
2015/07/26, 09:14 - Brightcom: Doc we get ur point very well now
2015/07/26, 09:15 - SMARTCHOICE: Odubee please how can I carry out a decarbonization on my engine
2015/07/26, 09:15 - Odubee: There are decarbonising machines... I don't have one though
2015/07/26, 09:16 - Odubee: The best way no expensive way is to fire the car (close to rev limit) like you stole it
2015/07/26, 09:16 - Odubee: Lol
2015/07/26, 09:16 - Pafestula: Rev it for how long
2015/07/26, 09:17 - Odubee: But until government does something about our petrol quality, we are still in the zanga
2015/07/26, 09:17 - SMARTCHOICE: 😀
2015/07/26, 09:17 - Odubee: Not rev sir @festo drive some fast and furious tins
2015/07/26, 09:17 - Pafestula: Like how many kilometers
2015/07/26, 09:18 - D1: Yipee!!!!
2015/07/26, 09:18 - Odubee: That's why you notice a purge of carbon everytime someone downshifts in front of you
2015/07/26, 09:18 - SMARTCHOICE: For stubborn build ups on the valves?
2015/07/26, 09:18 - Odubee: With a funny smell like gun powder being burnt
2015/07/26, 09:19 - Pafestula: Hmmm
2015/07/26, 09:19 - Pafestula: With a funny smell like gun powder being burnt, what colour ?
2015/07/26, 09:20 - SMARTCHOICE: For stubborn build ups on the valves?
2015/07/26, 09:20 - Odubee: Excessive build up is caused by bad fuel.. kinda inevitable In naija
2015/07/26, 09:21 - SMARTCHOICE: So?
2015/07/26, 09:21 - Odubee: Not much can be done to that @smart
2015/07/26, 09:21 - SMARTCHOICE: 🙉
2015/07/26, 09:24 - Odubee: You don't hear people in America talking of decarbonising
2015/07/26, 09:25 - Odubee: N that's because they have different graded of gas.. so u buy based on your manufacturers spec
2015/07/26, 09:25 - Odubee: But in naija, it's a sad story
2015/07/26, 09:25 - Odubee: Fuel scarcity shows you the true colours of what we buy as petrol
2015/07/26, 09:26 - SMARTCHOICE: Any effective fuel treatment
2015/07/26, 09:27 - SMARTCHOICE: That you can recommend?
2015/07/26, 09:28 - Odubee: Forget fuel treatment... fuel treatment only takes care of impurities, it doesn't better fuel quality
2015/07/26, 09:28 - Odubee: What has been refined has been refined
2015/07/26, 09:28 - SMARTCHOICE: So no detergents to stop fuel deposits build up?
2015/07/26, 09:29 - Odubee: Bad fuel is bad fuel sir
2015/07/26, 09:29 - Kewt: @Autodoc, where are u based?
2015/07/26, 09:30 - SMARTCHOICE: Siena recommended that of forte oil
2015/07/26, 09:30 - Odubee: Forget recommendations they still offload from thesame vessel
2015/07/26, 09:31 - Odubee: Until our refineries start working
2015/07/26, 09:31 - Odubee: Before we get what we want
2015/07/26, 09:31 - Odubee: @tope am based in lagos
2015/07/26, 09:32 - Odubee: Back in the days of our fathers, they had super and ordinary
2015/07/26, 09:33 - Odubee: Have you heard of any foreign car owner removing catalyst because of blockage??
2015/07/26, 09:33 - Odubee: The only reason they do is to add custom exhausts and increase the cars performance
2015/07/26, 09:34 - Odubee: Why do u think catalytic converters always get blocked here
2015/07/26, 09:34 - Yunusa: Y pls I need to know
2015/07/26, 09:35 - Odubee: Bad refined fuel = bad combustion = excess pollutants and lead particles
2015/07/26, 09:36 - Odubee: So catalyst must get blocked
2015/07/26, 09:37 - Yunusa: I removed mine due to blockage
2015/07/26, 09:37 - Odubee: A lot of your complaints about bad performance, poor miles/ gallon n all that still points at fuel grade
2015/07/26, 09:38 - Yunusa: @the autodoc, what is d way forward?
2015/07/26, 09:38 - Odubee: Every car manual specifies what grade of petrol should be used.. (premium, leaded, unleaded)
2015/07/26, 09:39 - Odubee: Unfortunately the only way forward is to wait for Buhari to do something
2015/07/26, 09:39 - Odubee: 😄
2015/07/26, 09:39 - Yunusa: Do we ve dis grade here in Nigeria
2015/07/26, 09:40 - Odubee: S.O.N are supposed to make sure standards are met.. but then they are also corrupted
2015/07/26, 09:40 - Yunusa: Haba baba-go-slow no get dat time now
2015/07/26, 09:40 - Yunusa: Na wa o
2015/07/26, 09:44 - +234 803 391 8271: End of discussion😃😃😃
2015/07/26, 09:44 - +234 803 391 8271: From all i have gathered,I go follow Auhanson do XFT
2015/07/26, 09:45 - +234 803 391 8271: And if XFT scarce na thinner i go pour inside fuel tank
2015/07/26, 09:45 - +234 803 391 8271: It hasn't hurt him over the years,it won't hurt me
2015/07/26, 09:46 - +234 803 391 8271: Fear fear achieves nothing
2015/07/26, 09:46 - +44 7432 870840: Thinners and seals in your fuel pump, lines don't go good together.
2015/07/26, 09:47 - Odubee: @nedu if you use thinner I'd be your best friend 😈
2015/07/26, 09:47 - +234 803 391 8271: That's extreme sha
2015/07/26, 09:48 - Odubee: Let me give you my address sharp sharp
2015/07/26, 09:48 - +234 803 391 8271: I know ogudu
2015/07/26, 09:51 - +44 7432 870840: It WILL clean your combustion chambers, but it can also cause your injector pintle caps to go brittle and break. The internal seals don't like thinners either. Thinners also lowers the octane rating of gasoline, increasing the risk of detonation. Detonation WILL damage your pistons over time.
2015/07/26, 09:52 - Camaro: Siena do you have trac's contact?
2015/07/26, 09:52 - +234 803 391 8271: Thanks siena,I wont dare
2015/07/26, 09:52 - +234 803 391 8271: But XFT tho
2015/07/26, 09:52 - +44 7432 870840: I might have his email knocking about somewhere, I'll check.
2015/07/26, 09:53 - +44 7432 870840: I have not met anyone who uses XFT.
2015/07/26, 09:53 - Camaro: Tried reaching him via email but it bounced back
2015/07/26, 09:53 - Camaro: Please we need him here
2015/07/26, 09:54 - +234 803 391 8271: I have,auhanson and one guy in my church
2015/07/26, 09:54 - +44 7432 870840: I'll try the email address I have.
2015/07/26, 09:54 - Camaro: Ok
2015/07/26, 09:54 - +234 803 391 8271: Testimonies awesome
2015/07/26, 10:03 - +234 803 391 8271: Caveat : am not asking anyone to join me o
2015/07/26, 10:03 - +234 803 391 8271: Before smart go say make i take responsibility😃
2015/07/26, 10:05 - SMARTCHOICE: Oyo for you
2015/07/26, 10:06 - Odubee: I hope I was helpful... Am out for now... if anyone has questions or anything that needs urgent attention please whatsapp me directly on 08029498260 and I'd reply here.. stay blessed and happy motoring
2015/07/26, 10:06 - Camaro: Special thanks to you autodoc for having breakfast with us, we will be happier if you teach us more any other time
2015/07/26, 10:08 - Camaro: After going through your intagram page, I was wow by so many things I saw. Specially the surgery aspects on some cars.
2015/07/26, 10:09 - Camaro: Thanks again for your inputs
2015/07/26, 10:15 - +234 803 391 8271: Our experts have all done well today
2015/07/26, 10:15 - +234 803 391 8271: This one go last us a quarter
2015/07/26, 10:15 - +234 803 391 8271: 😃
2015/07/26, 10:17 - Odubee: @engkells @nedu much appreciated sirs... Am forever loyal...
2015/07/26, 10:19 - D1: Autodoc, we are grateful
2015/07/26, 10:19 - D1: Thanks
2015/07/26, 10:20 - D1: Hope to see more of u often
2015/07/26, 10:23 - +234 803 491 1766: Auto doc fnks. Tnk God we didnt loose u !🙏
2015/07/26, 10:25 - Camaro: Special vote of thanks by the course rep, benz university, Nigeria
The visiting professor
Professor Siena in the UK,
I benzly appreciate your lecture. Though I wasn't in class, but I was able to copy the note from my colleagues especially your first class materials. I have read and covered the syllabus for the topic. Thanks for the knowledge. Please make out more time for us cos we are eager to learn any day and anytime.
I wish and other lectures in the house a supercharged 🚀week ahead.
Thank you all
2015/07/26, 10:25 - Danadam: Just waking up from sleep. I missed out on odubee and i've been hunting him for awhile on Airmatic lectures
2015/07/26, 10:26 - Danadam: Thank God, he dropped a number
2015/07/26, 10:27 - Camaro: We will like him to discuss that as his next lecture topic. Please fix a date for that while we prepare for the class
2015/07/26, 10:29 - Danadam: Trust me.. I will. I'm so eager to learn and understand the issues bout the Airmatic system cos i'm seriously contemplating getting a V8 with airmatic
2015/07/26, 10:32 - Odubee: @MrSiena well done sir... just went through what you posted and we are on thesame page
2015/07/26, 10:32 - Odubee: Never knew he also addressed what I did this morning
2015/07/26, 10:33 - Odubee: As for the 5w- 30 sienna spoke about
2015/07/26, 10:33 - Odubee: That oil is great
2015/07/26, 10:34 - Odubee: But not that great for temperate regions like nigeria
2015/07/26, 10:34 - Odubee: Where on average the temp is between 27 degrees cent- 45 degrees cent
2015/07/26, 10:35 - Odubee: I believe that the 5w- 30 has a high temperature coefficient of 40 degrees centigrade
2015/07/26, 10:35 - Odubee: That's why I recommend 5w- 40 full synthetic as it reaches a high temp of 50 degree cent
2015/07/26, 10:35 - Odubee: Perfect for our climate
2015/07/26, 10:37 - Camaro: Odubee, what oil would you recommend that is easily seen in our market that is good for our climate
2015/07/26, 10:40 - Pafestula: Ibrahim Adams!
2015/07/26, 10:41 - Brightcom: Autodoc,Mr Siena n smartchoice has made my day! Thanks
2015/07/26, 10:42 - Odubee: Irrespective of brand, 5w-40 is best for our climate
2015/07/26, 10:46 - Pafestula: You are right
2015/07/26, 10:47 - Danadam: Yes Festo... i'm here
2015/07/26, 10:48 - Danadam: Odubee... can u pls tell us bout the Airmatic system used on the E & S classes
2015/07/26, 10:48 - Pafestula: U need lecture on airmatic
2015/07/26, 10:49 - Danadam: I do
2015/07/26, 10:49 - Danadam: What's the cost of replacement?
2015/07/26, 10:50 - Danadam: How frequently will it be replaced?
2015/07/26, 10:50 - Danadam: Can it be repaired?
2015/07/26, 10:50 - Odubee: Okay, first whats car do u own
2015/07/26, 10:50 - Danadam: Presently own a C320 4matic 2005 MY
2015/07/26, 10:51 - Danadam: But i'm considering getting a E550 2008 MY
2015/07/26, 10:52 - Odubee: Okay
2015/07/26, 10:52 - Odubee: I owned a 2004 E500 for 4 years
2015/07/26, 10:52 - Odubee: The shocks are not cheap
2015/07/26, 10:53 - Odubee: Brand new front shocks go for about 230k each
2015/07/26, 10:53 - Danadam: 😳😳😳
2015/07/26, 10:53 - Odubee: There are rules you must follow
2015/07/26, 10:53 - Danadam: K
2015/07/26, 10:54 - Odubee: The front shocks for the 4matic version cost 350k each
2015/07/26, 10:54 - Odubee: If you have a bad shock
2015/07/26, 10:54 - Odubee: Only buy new original mercedes branded shocks
2015/07/26, 10:54 - Odubee: Or blisten
2015/07/26, 10:55 - Odubee: The only thing fairly used you can buy is the rear shock as it is separate from the air spring
2015/07/26, 10:55 - Odubee: But the rear air springs must be new if being replaced
2015/07/26, 10:55 - Odubee: The installer is also important
2015/07/26, 10:56 - Pafestula: Gbese re o
2015/07/26, 10:56 - Odubee: Any mistakes on the 10 screw that holds the supply hose will render the strut or air spring useless
2015/07/26, 10:56 - Odubee: That's mistakes arising from cross threading
2015/07/26, 10:57 - +234 803 391 8271: 350k x 2= 700k 🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃
2015/07/26, 10:57 - Danadam: 😷
2015/07/26, 10:57 - Odubee: It's doesn't go bad easily except you are a careless driver flying through pot holes
2015/07/26, 10:58 - Odubee: These things were designed for maximum comfort on good roads not naija spec roads
2015/07/26, 10:58 - +234 803 391 8271: Nigeria roads go make am bad
2015/07/26, 10:58 - Odubee: The 2010 E550 single new front shock is 390k non 4matic
2015/07/26, 10:58 - Odubee: And 480k 4matic
2015/07/26, 10:59 - Odubee: If you decide to go ahead, make sure your wife doesn't know how much you spend on repairs 😆
2015/07/26, 10:59 - +234 803 391 8271: Odubee its okay o
2015/07/26, 10:59 - Camaro: You don't mean it😳, Adam run for your life
2015/07/26, 10:59 - +234 803 391 8271: Person will faint
2015/07/26, 10:59 - Jg: Good morning all
2015/07/26, 10:59 - Danadam: 😷😷😷
2015/07/26, 11:00 - Odubee: When using a car with Airmatic suspension, you should never, I repeat never buy toks air springs of shocks
2015/07/26, 11:00 - Brightcom: 🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃not looking back
2015/07/26, 11:01 - Danadam: Why?
2015/07/26, 11:01 - Camaro: Does the 2007 s350 come with the airmatic suspension?@ autodoc
2015/07/26, 11:02 - Danadam: And someone was telling me 100k-120k for replacement of each air shocks
2015/07/26, 11:03 - Odubee: The s class comes standard with Airmatic suspension
2015/07/26, 11:04 - Odubee: The e class still has an option of conversion because of its other models that use springs
2015/07/26, 11:04 - Camaro: Bye to s class unless I'm richer that Dangote
2015/07/26, 11:04 - Odubee: But converting an S class will be your worst nightmare
2015/07/26, 11:05 - Odubee: Luxury comes at a price
2015/07/26, 11:05 - Odubee: Champagne is not sweet but it's expensive
2015/07/26, 11:05 - Odubee: The choice is yours
2015/07/26, 11:05 - Camaro: Lol
2015/07/26, 11:05 - Danadam: What bout converting the E class?
2015/07/26, 11:06 - Odubee: Done a few and I was impressed
2015/07/26, 11:06 - Camaro: Successful surgery
2015/07/26, 11:06 - Odubee: But I was addicted to the comfort of air suspension
2015/07/26, 11:07 - Danadam: Yeah... was told it's addictive
2015/07/26, 11:07 - Odubee: In suspension technology, nothing compares to Airmatic or oilmatic
2015/07/26, 11:07 - Camaro: Explain the kind of comfort you can experience from that?
2015/07/26, 11:08 - Odubee: You'd only understand if you drive the normal spring e class
2015/07/26, 11:08 - Odubee: Then drive the one with Airmatic
2015/07/26, 11:08 - Odubee: Some feelings are hard to describe
2015/07/26, 11:08 - Odubee: Just like asking me to explain how I feel when I am seriously pressed and I finally get the chance to wee
2015/07/26, 11:08 - Odubee: That kinda feeling
2015/07/26, 11:09 - Odubee: 😉
2015/07/26, 11:09 - Camaro: That comfort is difficult to achieve
2015/07/26, 11:10 - Odubee: So you think... check the review of the w222 S class
2015/07/26, 11:10 - Odubee: Or try driving a range then drive a 4 runner
2015/07/26, 11:11 - Odubee: You'd understand
2015/07/26, 11:11 - Pafestula: ✔
2015/07/26, 11:11 - Camaro: Festo will by me that someday
2015/07/26, 11:12 - Danadam: Odubee.... I want a V8 but I don't want airmatic. What's the way out?
2015/07/26, 11:12 - Odubee: Even trucks, trailers and luxurious busses have adopted Airmatic suspension...
2015/07/26, 11:13 - Odubee: Because they often carry fragile goods
2015/07/26, 11:13 - Odubee: Or passenger alike
2015/07/26, 11:13 - Odubee: There is hardly any millennium truck that isn't Airmatic
2015/07/26, 11:14 - Pafestula: Geegehun
2015/07/26, 11:14 - Danadam: Can I easily get one that has been converted abroad prior to shipping?
2015/07/26, 11:15 - Danadam: How much will a conversion cost?
2015/07/26, 11:15 - Odubee: Converting the e class isn't a big deal
2015/07/26, 11:15 - Odubee: All that is needed is the exact same parts from its coil spring cousin
2015/07/26, 11:17 - Odubee: About 140k
2015/07/26, 11:17 - Odubee: Less than the price of 1 new Airmatic shock
2015/07/26, 11:18 - Danadam: I think I can live with a converted one... I've never driven the one with airmatic so I will not miss it
2015/07/26, 11:19 - Danadam: My wife will divorce me if I spend that much on the airmatic😄
2015/07/26, 11:21 - Danadam: Or I will just get the E350... simple coil spring suspension
2015/07/26, 11:21 - Camaro: What model of e350?
2015/07/26, 11:22 - Danadam: W211
2015/07/26, 11:22 - Brightcom: Hahahah @ divorce
2015/07/26, 11:22 - Danadam: 2008.... facelift
2015/07/26, 11:23 - Odubee: Just don't buy 4matic
2015/07/26, 11:24 - Danadam: Why?
2015/07/26, 11:24 - Camaro: Just don't buy 4matic
Is it applicable to c class @ odubee
2015/07/26, 11:25 - Danadam: I've been using my 4matic for over 2 yrs now... no issues yet
2015/07/26, 11:26 - Danadam: Any peculiar issue with the E350 4matic?
2015/07/26, 11:28 - Odubee: Then you'd know that the price of your front suspension parts are almost twice that of the regular rear wheel
2015/07/26, 11:28 - Danadam: That's true...
2015/07/26, 11:28 - Odubee: The only difference is on your pocket
2015/07/26, 11:29 - +234 803 491 1766: Abeg auto doc @ d end of d lecture. I'd like to ask a question outside dis topic.
2015/07/26, 11:31 - Odubee: Okay I have less than 20 mins here
2015/07/26, 11:31 - Odubee: I guess I am making up for all the silent months
2015/07/26, 11:31 - Danadam: Chat saved for future reference
2015/07/26, 11:31 - Odubee: Hehe
2015/07/26, 11:31 - Danadam: Thanks alot odubee
2015/07/26, 11:32 - Danadam: Now I know.... AIRMATIC
2015/07/26, 11:32 - Odubee: I had my E500 for 4 years
2015/07/26, 11:33 - Odubee: It never troubled me cos I understood it
2015/07/26, 11:33 - Odubee: Having Airmatic is one thing, having a dull mechanic only makes things terrible
2015/07/26, 11:34 - Odubee: Although mine is up for sale
2015/07/26, 11:34 - Odubee: Hehe
2015/07/26, 11:34 - Odubee: Got an ml500 my2006
2015/07/26, 11:34 - Odubee: Am a v8 freak
2015/07/26, 11:34 - Pafestula: Badoo
2015/07/26, 11:35 - +234 803 491 1766: Pls. Btwn d 05,06 and 07 c230 sport which is less costly 2 maintain. N which of d model will u recommend as a result of less issues associated wit it
2015/07/26, 11:35 - Odubee: I really don't care about average miles per gallon... 😂
2015/07/26, 11:35 - Danadam: V8... me too but AIRMATIC... I rather pass
2015/07/26, 11:36 - Pafestula: V6 fans here
2015/07/26, 11:36 - Odubee: As long as it's the c230 with the m272 you are good to go sir
2015/07/26, 11:36 - Danadam: Ejiz.. all na the same nah
2015/07/26, 11:36 - Camaro: V6
2015/07/26, 11:37 - +234 803 491 1766: heard 07 has d EIS issue
2015/07/26, 11:37 - Odubee: And non 4matic
2015/07/26, 11:37 - Pafestula: Non 4matic non Kompressor
2015/07/26, 11:37 - +234 803 491 1766: N 06 n 07 r V6
2015/07/26, 11:37 - Odubee: Yes but you can't really place a finger on the ones with EIS issues
2015/07/26, 11:38 - Pafestula: But m272 engine naturally aspirated
2015/07/26, 11:38 - Odubee: They were of a bad batch
2015/07/26, 11:38 - +234 803 491 1766: Hmmm
2015/07/26, 11:38 - Odubee: Which have been shipped all over the world
2015/07/26, 11:38 - Odubee: So a few have the 07 with no EIS issues at all
2015/07/26, 11:38 - Kewt: @Autodoc, what abt d C230 with 271 engine? Any known issues?
2015/07/26, 11:39 - +234 803 491 1766: So which of. 230 sport model will u say is safer
2015/07/26, 11:40 - Odubee: That's the 4 cylinder turbo
2015/07/26, 11:40 - Odubee: Sweet engine
2015/07/26, 11:41 - Kewt: As long as it's the c230 with the m272 you are good to go sir
⬆ur answer abv informed my question cos I currently drive a C230 kompressor with 271engine
2015/07/26, 11:41 - +234 803 491 1766: Dts d 05 @ auto oc
2015/07/26, 11:42 - Pafestula: M272 a v6 right
2015/07/26, 11:44 - Odubee: Yes
2015/07/26, 11:44 - Kewt: @Autodoc, just b4 u leave, were u referring to d 271 engine for d c230 kompressor as d sweet engine? If yes, are there specific reasons y u consider it sweet?
2015/07/26, 11:45 - Kewt: Please explain more
2015/07/26, 11:45 - Pafestula: And the future effect of Kompressor?
2015/07/26, 11:45 - Odubee: Only one thing... the kick of the kompressor
2015/07/26, 11:45 - Odubee: Also the engine is cheap
2015/07/26, 11:45 - Odubee: So I can afford to blow it over and over again
2015/07/26, 11:45 - +234 803 491 1766: Hurray d doc has annioted 05 c230 sport.n d annointed child i shall go 4 !
2015/07/26, 11:46 - Odubee: 😆
2015/07/26, 11:46 - Odubee: The kompressor is a cheat... makes your 4 cylinder feel like a v6 but still fuel efficient
2015/07/26, 11:46 - Odubee: I want one as a second car
2015/07/26, 11:46 - Odubee: I told sope
2015/07/26, 11:46 - Pafestula: 271 vs 272 engine.. Which one is better and price in case of replacement
2015/07/26, 11:46 - Pafestula: ??
2015/07/26, 11:47 - Odubee: Ah
2015/07/26, 11:47 - Odubee: 272 is more expensive ooo
2015/07/26, 11:47 - Odubee: Still over 200k
2015/07/26, 11:47 - +234 803 491 1766: Pls which is 271 or 272
2015/07/26, 11:47 - Pafestula: So 271 1.8l Kompressor is how much sir
2015/07/26, 11:48 - Odubee: 271 is 4 cinder with turbo
2015/07/26, 11:48 - Odubee: 272 is the ones in the 2008 c class
2015/07/26, 11:48 - +234 803 491 1766: N doc is it advisiable 2 buy a high mileage 05.
2015/07/26, 11:48 - Odubee: C350, c 300, ml 350, glk 350, e 350, s350
2015/07/26, 11:49 - Odubee: I don't loom at mileage too often especially when the car isn't so recent
2015/07/26, 11:49 - Pafestula: 271 is 4 cinder with turbo, so how much sir
2015/07/26, 11:49 - Odubee: A well maintained car is a well maintained car irrespective of mileage
2015/07/26, 11:50 - Kewt: 👍Nice assertion @Autodoc. You hit d nail on d hammer😃👏
2015/07/26, 11:50 - Kewt: A well maintained car is a well maintained car irrespective of mileage
2015/07/26, 11:51 - Odubee: The kompressor engine you can get for less than 10ok am sure
2015/07/26, 11:51 - +234 803 491 1766: 🍺 abeg doc mk i entertain u as. Lecture dey go on. Pls manage dis pint
2015/07/26, 11:51 - Odubee: As long as it's the kompressor engine
2015/07/26, 11:51 - Odubee: With the red cover
2015/07/26, 11:51 - Odubee: Not the one with the black top that has turbo
2015/07/26, 11:52 - Kewt: In ur quest to get a low mileage car which are also often sought after even in d US, be careful not to get an accidented or rolled back mileage car
2015/07/26, 11:52 - Odubee: IMG-20150726-WA0002.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/26, 11:53 - Pafestula: Doc, pls wait
2015/07/26, 11:53 - Pafestula: Tope let me ask some questions
2015/07/26, 11:54 - Kewt: OK boss go on I Don wait
2015/07/26, 11:54 - +234 803 391 8271: This red top is not 05 o
2015/07/26, 11:55 - Kewt: Ds red top is not 04 either. I saw it last in an 02 kompressor. Is ds a 271 engine?
2015/07/26, 11:55 - +234 803 491 1766: @ doc finish ur drink 1st na
2015/07/26, 11:56 - Pafestula: U asked my question
2015/07/26, 11:56 - Odubee: There is the newer version on the 2010 c class
2015/07/26, 11:57 - Pafestula: Odubee the C Class Kompressor with red cover engine which stopped from 2003 are cheap to buy and good?
2015/07/26, 11:57 - Odubee: IMG-20150726-WA0003.jpg (file attached)
2015/07/26, 11:58 - Odubee: Yes they are
2015/07/26, 11:58 - Pafestula: So those 2004 Kompressor engine is how much for them, since the red are less than 100k
2015/07/26, 11:59 - Odubee: Yes
2015/07/26, 11:59 - Pafestula: Like how much for 2004 Kompressor engine
2015/07/26, 12:00 - Kewt: And how good/reliable are d Kompressor engines with black on top?
2015/07/26, 12:01 - Kewt: Same engine Festo is referring to ie 2004 kompressor engines
2015/07/26, 12:01 - Pafestula: I'm actually asking those question cos of you Tope
2015/07/26, 12:01 - Pafestula: I know fear don dey catch u
2015/07/26, 12:02 - Kewt: Yes boss like say u dey my mind walahi
2015/07/26, 12:03 - Pafestula: But I have a confession to make today
2015/07/26, 12:03 - Kewt: Pls do b4 Auto doc answers our questions
2015/07/26, 12:05 - Pafestula: Every brand of cars, model etc from 2008 till date doesn't freak me anymore, I prefer from 2000-2007 of all brands, I don't why such primitive stuff keep coming
2015/07/26, 12:06 - Pafestula: Even the 2015 S class does not drive me crazy as expected, I think I need deliverance, to cast the spirit of oldskool out of me
2015/07/26, 12:06 - Kewt: Hmm. U don dey resemble smartchoice small small
2015/07/26, 12:06 - Kewt: Very soon u go begin like 1980 models and below😀😄😄
2015/07/26, 12:07 - Pafestula: I don't know why such primitive stuff keeping coming in my heart
2015/07/26, 12:08 - +234 803 491 1766: Doc. R u recommendin d. 1 wit d red cover or d 1 wit d turbo
2015/07/26, 12:08 - Kewt: @Autodoc... Still awaiting ur answers sir.
2015/07/26, 12:08 - Pafestula: Every brand/model Interior and exterior looks rubbish to me
2015/07/26, 12:09 - Odubee: The 2001- 2004 with black top still excess almost 200k
2015/07/26, 12:09 - Odubee: But the red top about or less than 100k
2015/07/26, 12:10 - Kewt: [7/26, 12:00 PM] Tope: And how good/reliable are d Kompressor engines with black on top?
[7/26, 12:01 PM] Tope: Same engine Festo is referring to ie 2004 kompressor engines
2015/07/26, 12:11 - Pafestula: Thank God am not guilty
2015/07/26, 12:12 - Kewt: Autodoc, question modified :
Is d high cost of d Kompressor engines with black top a reflection of its durability and reliability?
2015/07/26, 12:14 - Odubee: Nope, just one of them mercedes mistakes...
2015/07/26, 12:14 - Pafestula: Lol. Tension modified.
The cost of your engine can get 3 plots of land in my village @ Tope and it is just of Benz factory error.
2015/07/26, 12:15 - Pafestula: We have answered you now sir..
2015/07/26, 12:15 - Odubee: The black top kompressor engine will buy 3 red top kompressor engines
2015/07/26, 12:16 - Pafestula: 😄😄😄😄😀😀😀😜😜😜😜🙈🙈🙈🙈
2015/07/26, 12:16 - Odubee: Mercedes were only trying to modify it so they could perfect the ones in the 2008 and later models
2015/07/26, 12:16 - Odubee: That blacktop engine was the lab rat
2015/07/26, 12:16 - Kewt: Heard d engine has anti knock
2015/07/26, 12:17 - Kewt: @Festo......😃😃
2015/07/26, 12:17 - Pafestula: I'm going for W203 C230 Kompressor 1.8L engine 271
2015/07/26, 12:17 - Kewt: Come buy my own at a give away price
2015/07/26, 12:18 - Kewt: 😃😃
2015/07/26, 12:18 - Pafestula: Not now when Doctor has made it known that black engine label is an Ebola virus.. Tahhhh
2015/07/26, 12:19 - Kewt: Exactly d same spec u want... But at ur own risk sir. Since d engine cost can buy 3 plots of land
2015/07/26, 12:19 - Odubee: Thanks for the questions and I hope I satisfied everyone... Have a great day ahead people... God bless.. I still remain Naija's Funkiest AutoDoc 😎
2015/07/26, 12:19 - Pafestula: God saved me I didn't put my lapo money on this some months back
2015/07/26, 12:19 - Pafestula: Odubee you can go now, thank u very much
2015/07/26, 12:19 - Kewt: Thanks @Autodoc. We really appreciate ur time
2015/07/26, 12:20 - Danadam: You've done well odubee👏👏👏
2015/07/26, 12:20 - Kewt: @Autodoc May ur knowledge bank never dry
2015/07/26, 12:21 - Pafestula: And Ife (Nuel) didn't tell me all this
2015/07/26, 12:21 - Pafestula: Now I know the truth, and the truth has set me free
2015/07/26, 12:22 - Kewt: So what happens to those of us using d car na @Festo?
2015/07/26, 12:22 - Pafestula: Hallelujah
2015/07/26, 12:22 - Kewt: Those of us wey Don teri si?
2015/07/26, 12:23 - Pafestula: Radio O.Y.OOOOOO
2015/07/26, 12:23 - Danadam: Tope... enjoy your ride. Nothing will happen to it.... as long as you use the recommended oil
2015/07/26, 12:24 - Pafestula: I remember that radio station back in 80s.. No FM, na SW we dey get am, Radio Oyo state, but the song was radio O.Y.O
2015/07/26, 12:24 - Pafestula: So that O.Y.O. for u@ una with black labeled
2015/07/26, 12:25 - Pafestula: Here dey come again.. The comforter@ Adams
2015/07/26, 12:25 - Pafestula: Man of God has spoken
2015/07/26, 12:25 - Kewt: 👍Adam. D engine also has built in feature for anti knock. Dat means, it can never knock even if water finish for d radiator, it wud rather not start than affect d engine
2015/07/26, 12:26 - Pafestula: Ok
2015/07/26, 12:26 - Pafestula: Anti knocking..😀😀😀😀
2015/07/26, 12:26 - Sope: I love Kompressors
2015/07/26, 12:28 - +234 803 491 1766: @ festo. D 05 carry red cover ?
2015/07/26, 12:29 - Sope: The feeling you get when you sip a moutuary standard glass of champagne can't be compared to that of cruising a Kompressor at 120 140 160
2015/07/26, 12:30 - Pafestula: @ eji ... From 2000-2003 red label
2015/07/26, 12:30 - Pafestula: No facelift o
2015/07/26, 12:30 - +234 803 491 1766: 😳
2015/07/26, 12:30 - Danadam: The feeling you get when you sip a moutuary standard glass of champagne can't be compared to that of cruising a V6 at 180 200
2015/07/26, 12:30 - Danadam: 😄
2015/07/26, 12:32 - Sope: The take off of a Kompressor very powerful on fully pressed throttle
2015/07/26, 12:32 - Sope: Lol @ Adams
2015/07/26, 12:32 - Danadam: @shoppy, have driven a V8 benz?
2015/07/26, 12:32 - Kewt: 👍 u get it. @Shoppy.
2015/07/26, 12:32 - Pafestula: Face lift don cause aluta o
2015/07/26, 12:33 - +234 803 491 1766: Buh d doc annointed ma 05
2015/07/26, 12:33 - Pafestula: Read again, he didn't tell u 05 Kompressor
2015/07/26, 12:33 - Kewt: U heard autodoc said d Kompressor is a cheat... Giving dat feeling of v6 when ur on 4 cylinders
2015/07/26, 12:34 - Pafestula: But M272 05
2015/07/26, 12:34 - Danadam: V8➡V6➡Kompressor
2015/07/26, 12:34 - Kewt: D only reason I'd wanna change my car is becos of d facelifted version. I love d facelifted dash and instruments cluster
2015/07/26, 12:35 - Sope: That turbo sound that plays out of thr engine especially when changing gears
2015/07/26, 12:35 - Sope: I neva drive V8 o
2015/07/26, 12:35 - Kewt: I still get a fair balance btw performance and economy i
2015/07/26, 12:36 - Kewt: U too saabi @Shoppy
2015/07/26, 12:36 - Pafestula: I forgot to ask him about A class too
2015/07/26, 12:36 - Sope: Lol😄@Oga Tope
2015/07/26, 12:36 - Pafestula: Maybe I will upgrade to 2006 A Class who knows
2015/07/26, 12:36 - Kewt: I even tried Changing my instruments cluster but some features didn't work
2015/07/26, 12:37 - Sope: I will forever love Kompressors
2015/07/26, 12:39 - Sope: When I down shift & I & rev while over taking, all eyes on me. Drivers watch with dropped jaws. That's the power of a 4plug Kompressor
2015/07/26, 12:41 - Sope: Kompressors with the red plate started 2000- 2003 I guess. Mine is 2000 MY
2015/07/26, 12:42 - Viazi: Tor na Red top Kompressor i dey now ohhh. So far as I can put 17 inch original Benz wheels on it
2015/07/26, 12:42 - Kewt: Autodoc
[7/26, 11:46 AM] +234 802 949 8260: The kompressor is a cheat... makes your 4 cylinder feel like a v6 but still fuel efficient
[7/26, 11:46 AM] +234 802 949 8260: I want one as a second car
2015/07/26, 12:45 - Viazi: IMG-20150726-WA0005.jpg (file attached)
Exactly this trips Hybrid, but most of them I have seen have fabric interior
2015/07/26, 12:46 - +234 803 491 1766: Tope. We will both upgrade 2 05. No fear. Nottin go happen
2015/07/26, 12:48 - Viazi: I personally think the c320 engine if well maintained can't die in 15 years
2015/07/26, 12:50 - Sope: IMG-20150726-WA0004.jpg (file attached)
My Kompressor 4plug Engine with 2 coils
2015/07/26, 12:52 - Kewt: 👍@Ejiz
2015/07/26, 12:53 - Kewt: @Hybrid most benz engines don't die if well maintained d C320 is no exception
2015/07/26, 12:53 - Aikerism: 995 messages to read!!! 😠
2015/07/26, 12:53 - Aikerism: No way!
2015/07/26, 12:54 - Aikerism: From last night till now and I have to read all that...
2015/07/26, 12:54 - Aikerism: I'd rather say my good afternoon right here
2015/07/26, 12:54 - Aikerism: Una weldone o
2015/07/26, 13:05 - +234 803 461 9429: 🙏
2015/07/26, 13:25 - Aikerism: Crown good day...
2015/07/26, 13:31 - +234 703 799 0298: Oba gbese
2015/07/26, 13:31 - +234 703 799 0298: How come is it like dat
2015/07/26, 13:58 - Aikerism: Una no dey rest
2015/07/26, 13:58 - Aikerism: Una no dey go church
2015/07/26, 13:58 - Aikerism: Una no dey observe weekend
2015/07/26, 14:00 - Aikerism: Welll... Benz all d way
2015/07/26, 14:18 - +234 803 391 8271: Cost of engine should not be be a deciding factor in the chosing a benz except you are apabenz(killer of benz)
2015/07/26, 14:42 - Emmyz09: Una weldon o
2015/07/26, 14:44 - Emmyz09: Had issues wit my fone o
2015/07/26, 14:50 - SMARTCHOICE: Aikerism no allow us do your election o
2015/07/26, 14:50 - Brightcom: Lolz
2015/07/26, 14:50 - Brightcom: Co ordinator of Abuja zone!
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